Righteous Anger, or blown out of proportion?

Ok. Help me out here.

The company I work for is designating tomorrow at home office and all weekend in the stores as “dress down day” — to kick off a Tsunami Relief campaign.

Usually, when retailers do this, the method is you pay a certain amount to get a pass to “dress down” — in our case, at Home Office, jeans and sneakers. (We’re the last company in the US not to have gone casual, I swear.)

We’re not doing this. Rather than making anyone feel the peer pressure of donating money for the privilege of dressing down, we’re just letting people fly the denim as a way of signaling our commitment to the relief effort. (Stay with me.)

The company’s donated a fairly sizable chunk of money, there will be voluntary donation opportunities around the building for the month. All well and good.

It’s this denim thing that’s getting to me.

See what’s happened is that there’s this real…festive atmosphere that’s developed around tomorrow. People talking about it, buzzing about it, wondering whether some women will be wearing inappropriate low-rise jeans, etc.

A little too festive for me. It’s offensive to me that the company’s created this “awareness kickoff” with this huge party-type thing. It seems a little bizarre, not entirely well thought out, and strangely out of touch with the scale of the disaster.

Am I overreacting?

ps: I’m wearing a suit tomorrow, by the way. With cuff links.

EDIT: by the way, i just locked this down. it occurred to me that i shouldn’t put it out there for anyone to see — more for the bad taste jokes than for the discussion proper. i know you guys well enough to know where your hearts are at — not everyone does.

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376 responses to “Righteous Anger, or blown out of proportion?

  • dfleming

    my initial thoughts

    weird offensive stuff happens at my workplace all the time. the less i allow myself to get emotionally involved, the better. i’ve allowed stuff like this to make me physically and emotionally ill. so now i try not to. i guess i’m suggesting you do the same, though i understand the pull. i wouldn’t say you’re overreacting. i mean, your feelings are justified. but, what’s the price for fueling those feelings? what’s gained?

  • dfleming

    my initial thoughts

    weird offensive stuff happens at my workplace all the time. the less i allow myself to get emotionally involved, the better. i’ve allowed stuff like this to make me physically and emotionally ill. so now i try not to. i guess i’m suggesting you do the same, though i understand the pull. i wouldn’t say you’re overreacting. i mean, your feelings are justified. but, what’s the price for fueling those feelings? what’s gained?

  • dfleming

    my initial thoughts

    weird offensive stuff happens at my workplace all the time. the less i allow myself to get emotionally involved, the better. i’ve allowed stuff like this to make me physically and emotionally ill. so now i try not to. i guess i’m suggesting you do the same, though i understand the pull. i wouldn’t say you’re overreacting. i mean, your feelings are justified. but, what’s the price for fueling those feelings? what’s gained?

  • dfleming

    my initial thoughts

    weird offensive stuff happens at my workplace all the time. the less i allow myself to get emotionally involved, the better. i’ve allowed stuff like this to make me physically and emotionally ill. so now i try not to. i guess i’m suggesting you do the same, though i understand the pull. i wouldn’t say you’re overreacting. i mean, your feelings are justified. but, what’s the price for fueling those feelings? what’s gained?

  • dfleming

    my initial thoughts

    weird offensive stuff happens at my workplace all the time. the less i allow myself to get emotionally involved, the better. i’ve allowed stuff like this to make me physically and emotionally ill. so now i try not to. i guess i’m suggesting you do the same, though i understand the pull. i wouldn’t say you’re overreacting. i mean, your feelings are justified. but, what’s the price for fueling those feelings? what’s gained?

  • dfleming

    my initial thoughts

    weird offensive stuff happens at my workplace all the time. the less i allow myself to get emotionally involved, the better. i’ve allowed stuff like this to make me physically and emotionally ill. so now i try not to. i guess i’m suggesting you do the same, though i understand the pull. i wouldn’t say you’re overreacting. i mean, your feelings are justified. but, what’s the price for fueling those feelings? what’s gained?

  • dfleming

    my initial thoughts

    weird offensive stuff happens at my workplace all the time. the less i allow myself to get emotionally involved, the better. i’ve allowed stuff like this to make me physically and emotionally ill. so now i try not to. i guess i’m suggesting you do the same, though i understand the pull. i wouldn’t say you’re overreacting. i mean, your feelings are justified. but, what’s the price for fueling those feelings? what’s gained?

  • dfleming

    my initial thoughts

    weird offensive stuff happens at my workplace all the time. the less i allow myself to get emotionally involved, the better. i’ve allowed stuff like this to make me physically and emotionally ill. so now i try not to. i guess i’m suggesting you do the same, though i understand the pull. i wouldn’t say you’re overreacting. i mean, your feelings are justified. but, what’s the price for fueling those feelings? what’s gained?

  • claudelemonde

    Re: It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    that’s what i think. i think in the past a model like “pay to dress down” worked for the company, so they simply said “how have we raised funds in the past,” not “how appropriate is this symbolically.” symbolism doesn’t tend to play well in the corporate field, which is hard for poets to get, i think. i’d chalk it up to innocent misunderstanding on the higher-ups’ ends, and tacky ignorance on your coworkers’.

  • claudelemonde

    Re: It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    that’s what i think. i think in the past a model like “pay to dress down” worked for the company, so they simply said “how have we raised funds in the past,” not “how appropriate is this symbolically.” symbolism doesn’t tend to play well in the corporate field, which is hard for poets to get, i think. i’d chalk it up to innocent misunderstanding on the higher-ups’ ends, and tacky ignorance on your coworkers’.

  • claudelemonde

    Re: It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    that’s what i think. i think in the past a model like “pay to dress down” worked for the company, so they simply said “how have we raised funds in the past,” not “how appropriate is this symbolically.” symbolism doesn’t tend to play well in the corporate field, which is hard for poets to get, i think. i’d chalk it up to innocent misunderstanding on the higher-ups’ ends, and tacky ignorance on your coworkers’.

  • claudelemonde

    Re: It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    that’s what i think. i think in the past a model like “pay to dress down” worked for the company, so they simply said “how have we raised funds in the past,” not “how appropriate is this symbolically.” symbolism doesn’t tend to play well in the corporate field, which is hard for poets to get, i think. i’d chalk it up to innocent misunderstanding on the higher-ups’ ends, and tacky ignorance on your coworkers’.

  • claudelemonde

    Re: It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    that’s what i think. i think in the past a model like “pay to dress down” worked for the company, so they simply said “how have we raised funds in the past,” not “how appropriate is this symbolically.” symbolism doesn’t tend to play well in the corporate field, which is hard for poets to get, i think. i’d chalk it up to innocent misunderstanding on the higher-ups’ ends, and tacky ignorance on your coworkers’.

  • claudelemonde

    Re: It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    that’s what i think. i think in the past a model like “pay to dress down” worked for the company, so they simply said “how have we raised funds in the past,” not “how appropriate is this symbolically.” symbolism doesn’t tend to play well in the corporate field, which is hard for poets to get, i think. i’d chalk it up to innocent misunderstanding on the higher-ups’ ends, and tacky ignorance on your coworkers’.

  • claudelemonde

    Re: It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    that’s what i think. i think in the past a model like “pay to dress down” worked for the company, so they simply said “how have we raised funds in the past,” not “how appropriate is this symbolically.” symbolism doesn’t tend to play well in the corporate field, which is hard for poets to get, i think. i’d chalk it up to innocent misunderstanding on the higher-ups’ ends, and tacky ignorance on your coworkers’.

  • claudelemonde

    Re: It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    that’s what i think. i think in the past a model like “pay to dress down” worked for the company, so they simply said “how have we raised funds in the past,” not “how appropriate is this symbolically.” symbolism doesn’t tend to play well in the corporate field, which is hard for poets to get, i think. i’d chalk it up to innocent misunderstanding on the higher-ups’ ends, and tacky ignorance on your coworkers’.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    The reasons for charity are *always* you. You feel it is the moral thing to do, so you donate time or money. By doing so, even you don’t broadcast your generosity to the world at large with livestrong bracelets, flags, etc., you make yourself feel better about your convictions & character. Sometimes it comes from a secret, snobby sense of noblesse oblige, and sometimes it comes from genuine empathy, but if nothing in you would benefit from helping your fellow man, you simply wouldn’t do it.

    In any case, evil is such a subjective & misused term that I hesitate to throw it around so casually.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    The reasons for charity are *always* you. You feel it is the moral thing to do, so you donate time or money. By doing so, even you don’t broadcast your generosity to the world at large with livestrong bracelets, flags, etc., you make yourself feel better about your convictions & character. Sometimes it comes from a secret, snobby sense of noblesse oblige, and sometimes it comes from genuine empathy, but if nothing in you would benefit from helping your fellow man, you simply wouldn’t do it.

    In any case, evil is such a subjective & misused term that I hesitate to throw it around so casually.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    The reasons for charity are *always* you. You feel it is the moral thing to do, so you donate time or money. By doing so, even you don’t broadcast your generosity to the world at large with livestrong bracelets, flags, etc., you make yourself feel better about your convictions & character. Sometimes it comes from a secret, snobby sense of noblesse oblige, and sometimes it comes from genuine empathy, but if nothing in you would benefit from helping your fellow man, you simply wouldn’t do it.

    In any case, evil is such a subjective & misused term that I hesitate to throw it around so casually.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    The reasons for charity are *always* you. You feel it is the moral thing to do, so you donate time or money. By doing so, even you don’t broadcast your generosity to the world at large with livestrong bracelets, flags, etc., you make yourself feel better about your convictions & character. Sometimes it comes from a secret, snobby sense of noblesse oblige, and sometimes it comes from genuine empathy, but if nothing in you would benefit from helping your fellow man, you simply wouldn’t do it.

    In any case, evil is such a subjective & misused term that I hesitate to throw it around so casually.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    The reasons for charity are *always* you. You feel it is the moral thing to do, so you donate time or money. By doing so, even you don’t broadcast your generosity to the world at large with livestrong bracelets, flags, etc., you make yourself feel better about your convictions & character. Sometimes it comes from a secret, snobby sense of noblesse oblige, and sometimes it comes from genuine empathy, but if nothing in you would benefit from helping your fellow man, you simply wouldn’t do it.

    In any case, evil is such a subjective & misused term that I hesitate to throw it around so casually.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    The reasons for charity are *always* you. You feel it is the moral thing to do, so you donate time or money. By doing so, even you don’t broadcast your generosity to the world at large with livestrong bracelets, flags, etc., you make yourself feel better about your convictions & character. Sometimes it comes from a secret, snobby sense of noblesse oblige, and sometimes it comes from genuine empathy, but if nothing in you would benefit from helping your fellow man, you simply wouldn’t do it.

    In any case, evil is such a subjective & misused term that I hesitate to throw it around so casually.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    The reasons for charity are *always* you. You feel it is the moral thing to do, so you donate time or money. By doing so, even you don’t broadcast your generosity to the world at large with livestrong bracelets, flags, etc., you make yourself feel better about your convictions & character. Sometimes it comes from a secret, snobby sense of noblesse oblige, and sometimes it comes from genuine empathy, but if nothing in you would benefit from helping your fellow man, you simply wouldn’t do it.

    In any case, evil is such a subjective & misused term that I hesitate to throw it around so casually.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    The reasons for charity are *always* you. You feel it is the moral thing to do, so you donate time or money. By doing so, even you don’t broadcast your generosity to the world at large with livestrong bracelets, flags, etc., you make yourself feel better about your convictions & character. Sometimes it comes from a secret, snobby sense of noblesse oblige, and sometimes it comes from genuine empathy, but if nothing in you would benefit from helping your fellow man, you simply wouldn’t do it.

    In any case, evil is such a subjective & misused term that I hesitate to throw it around so casually.

  • princessbebop

    Thanks… but now we have to convince Vogue.

    Or not. Ah, screw that. I’ll just put up more prints from the Uffuzi.

  • princessbebop

    Thanks… but now we have to convince Vogue.

    Or not. Ah, screw that. I’ll just put up more prints from the Uffuzi.

  • princessbebop

    Thanks… but now we have to convince Vogue.

    Or not. Ah, screw that. I’ll just put up more prints from the Uffuzi.

  • princessbebop

    Thanks… but now we have to convince Vogue.

    Or not. Ah, screw that. I’ll just put up more prints from the Uffuzi.

  • princessbebop

    Thanks… but now we have to convince Vogue.

    Or not. Ah, screw that. I’ll just put up more prints from the Uffuzi.

  • princessbebop

    Thanks… but now we have to convince Vogue.

    Or not. Ah, screw that. I’ll just put up more prints from the Uffuzi.

  • princessbebop

    Thanks… but now we have to convince Vogue.

    Or not. Ah, screw that. I’ll just put up more prints from the Uffuzi.

  • princessbebop

    Thanks… but now we have to convince Vogue.

    Or not. Ah, screw that. I’ll just put up more prints from the Uffuzi.

  • diva_dot

    That’s cool…good to know it’s a good place most of the time. DuPont is pretty much that way too…but sometimes, you can just tell something happens that falls into a category of a big company trying too hard to be philanthropic or politically correct.

    Some companies don’t do anything like that at all. As long as everyone’s heart is in the right place, it makes things a little better.

  • diva_dot

    That’s cool…good to know it’s a good place most of the time. DuPont is pretty much that way too…but sometimes, you can just tell something happens that falls into a category of a big company trying too hard to be philanthropic or politically correct.

    Some companies don’t do anything like that at all. As long as everyone’s heart is in the right place, it makes things a little better.

  • diva_dot

    That’s cool…good to know it’s a good place most of the time. DuPont is pretty much that way too…but sometimes, you can just tell something happens that falls into a category of a big company trying too hard to be philanthropic or politically correct.

    Some companies don’t do anything like that at all. As long as everyone’s heart is in the right place, it makes things a little better.

  • diva_dot

    That’s cool…good to know it’s a good place most of the time. DuPont is pretty much that way too…but sometimes, you can just tell something happens that falls into a category of a big company trying too hard to be philanthropic or politically correct.

    Some companies don’t do anything like that at all. As long as everyone’s heart is in the right place, it makes things a little better.

  • diva_dot

    That’s cool…good to know it’s a good place most of the time. DuPont is pretty much that way too…but sometimes, you can just tell something happens that falls into a category of a big company trying too hard to be philanthropic or politically correct.

    Some companies don’t do anything like that at all. As long as everyone’s heart is in the right place, it makes things a little better.

  • diva_dot

    That’s cool…good to know it’s a good place most of the time. DuPont is pretty much that way too…but sometimes, you can just tell something happens that falls into a category of a big company trying too hard to be philanthropic or politically correct.

    Some companies don’t do anything like that at all. As long as everyone’s heart is in the right place, it makes things a little better.

  • diva_dot

    That’s cool…good to know it’s a good place most of the time. DuPont is pretty much that way too…but sometimes, you can just tell something happens that falls into a category of a big company trying too hard to be philanthropic or politically correct.

    Some companies don’t do anything like that at all. As long as everyone’s heart is in the right place, it makes things a little better.

  • diva_dot

    That’s cool…good to know it’s a good place most of the time. DuPont is pretty much that way too…but sometimes, you can just tell something happens that falls into a category of a big company trying too hard to be philanthropic or politically correct.

    Some companies don’t do anything like that at all. As long as everyone’s heart is in the right place, it makes things a little better.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    I believe the outcome is entirely separate from the motivation.

    You can be one evil sob, do an evil thing and consequently have good come out of your actions. It doesn’t change the good deed being done for the wrong reasons.

    Charity results in lots of people being better off. That’s great. But they are not acts of pure kindness if the reasons for giving have more to do with you than the recipient. Either way, the recipient is better off, but the giver or giving organization would not always be.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    I believe the outcome is entirely separate from the motivation.

    You can be one evil sob, do an evil thing and consequently have good come out of your actions. It doesn’t change the good deed being done for the wrong reasons.

    Charity results in lots of people being better off. That’s great. But they are not acts of pure kindness if the reasons for giving have more to do with you than the recipient. Either way, the recipient is better off, but the giver or giving organization would not always be.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    I believe the outcome is entirely separate from the motivation.

    You can be one evil sob, do an evil thing and consequently have good come out of your actions. It doesn’t change the good deed being done for the wrong reasons.

    Charity results in lots of people being better off. That’s great. But they are not acts of pure kindness if the reasons for giving have more to do with you than the recipient. Either way, the recipient is better off, but the giver or giving organization would not always be.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    I believe the outcome is entirely separate from the motivation.

    You can be one evil sob, do an evil thing and consequently have good come out of your actions. It doesn’t change the good deed being done for the wrong reasons.

    Charity results in lots of people being better off. That’s great. But they are not acts of pure kindness if the reasons for giving have more to do with you than the recipient. Either way, the recipient is better off, but the giver or giving organization would not always be.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    I believe the outcome is entirely separate from the motivation.

    You can be one evil sob, do an evil thing and consequently have good come out of your actions. It doesn’t change the good deed being done for the wrong reasons.

    Charity results in lots of people being better off. That’s great. But they are not acts of pure kindness if the reasons for giving have more to do with you than the recipient. Either way, the recipient is better off, but the giver or giving organization would not always be.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    I believe the outcome is entirely separate from the motivation.

    You can be one evil sob, do an evil thing and consequently have good come out of your actions. It doesn’t change the good deed being done for the wrong reasons.

    Charity results in lots of people being better off. That’s great. But they are not acts of pure kindness if the reasons for giving have more to do with you than the recipient. Either way, the recipient is better off, but the giver or giving organization would not always be.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    I believe the outcome is entirely separate from the motivation.

    You can be one evil sob, do an evil thing and consequently have good come out of your actions. It doesn’t change the good deed being done for the wrong reasons.

    Charity results in lots of people being better off. That’s great. But they are not acts of pure kindness if the reasons for giving have more to do with you than the recipient. Either way, the recipient is better off, but the giver or giving organization would not always be.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    I believe the outcome is entirely separate from the motivation.

    You can be one evil sob, do an evil thing and consequently have good come out of your actions. It doesn’t change the good deed being done for the wrong reasons.

    Charity results in lots of people being better off. That’s great. But they are not acts of pure kindness if the reasons for giving have more to do with you than the recipient. Either way, the recipient is better off, but the giver or giving organization would not always be.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we are a HUGE contributor to Save the Children, and to domestic violence programs.

    Understand, we’re not an uncaring place — I know most of the big guys here, and they’re as easily moved to action on issues they care about as most people are. I think their hearts are in the right place…individually.

    But something odd happens in the aggregate. Something blind to appearances. Not always, but enough times to be interesting and a little depressing.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we are a HUGE contributor to Save the Children, and to domestic violence programs.

    Understand, we’re not an uncaring place — I know most of the big guys here, and they’re as easily moved to action on issues they care about as most people are. I think their hearts are in the right place…individually.

    But something odd happens in the aggregate. Something blind to appearances. Not always, but enough times to be interesting and a little depressing.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we are a HUGE contributor to Save the Children, and to domestic violence programs.

    Understand, we’re not an uncaring place — I know most of the big guys here, and they’re as easily moved to action on issues they care about as most people are. I think their hearts are in the right place…individually.

    But something odd happens in the aggregate. Something blind to appearances. Not always, but enough times to be interesting and a little depressing.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we are a HUGE contributor to Save the Children, and to domestic violence programs.

    Understand, we’re not an uncaring place — I know most of the big guys here, and they’re as easily moved to action on issues they care about as most people are. I think their hearts are in the right place…individually.

    But something odd happens in the aggregate. Something blind to appearances. Not always, but enough times to be interesting and a little depressing.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we are a HUGE contributor to Save the Children, and to domestic violence programs.

    Understand, we’re not an uncaring place — I know most of the big guys here, and they’re as easily moved to action on issues they care about as most people are. I think their hearts are in the right place…individually.

    But something odd happens in the aggregate. Something blind to appearances. Not always, but enough times to be interesting and a little depressing.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we are a HUGE contributor to Save the Children, and to domestic violence programs.

    Understand, we’re not an uncaring place — I know most of the big guys here, and they’re as easily moved to action on issues they care about as most people are. I think their hearts are in the right place…individually.

    But something odd happens in the aggregate. Something blind to appearances. Not always, but enough times to be interesting and a little depressing.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we are a HUGE contributor to Save the Children, and to domestic violence programs.

    Understand, we’re not an uncaring place — I know most of the big guys here, and they’re as easily moved to action on issues they care about as most people are. I think their hearts are in the right place…individually.

    But something odd happens in the aggregate. Something blind to appearances. Not always, but enough times to be interesting and a little depressing.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we are a HUGE contributor to Save the Children, and to domestic violence programs.

    Understand, we’re not an uncaring place — I know most of the big guys here, and they’re as easily moved to action on issues they care about as most people are. I think their hearts are in the right place…individually.

    But something odd happens in the aggregate. Something blind to appearances. Not always, but enough times to be interesting and a little depressing.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Her whole thing is that altruism is, at its root, completely evil and driven by selfish and manipulative needs.

    In this context, I completely disagree with you (&her). Good done is good done, whether your motivation is the photo-op or the little glowy feeling you get from being such a moral citizen. The point is not you, but the outcome.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Her whole thing is that altruism is, at its root, completely evil and driven by selfish and manipulative needs.

    In this context, I completely disagree with you (&her). Good done is good done, whether your motivation is the photo-op or the little glowy feeling you get from being such a moral citizen. The point is not you, but the outcome.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Her whole thing is that altruism is, at its root, completely evil and driven by selfish and manipulative needs.

    In this context, I completely disagree with you (&her). Good done is good done, whether your motivation is the photo-op or the little glowy feeling you get from being such a moral citizen. The point is not you, but the outcome.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Her whole thing is that altruism is, at its root, completely evil and driven by selfish and manipulative needs.

    In this context, I completely disagree with you (&her). Good done is good done, whether your motivation is the photo-op or the little glowy feeling you get from being such a moral citizen. The point is not you, but the outcome.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Her whole thing is that altruism is, at its root, completely evil and driven by selfish and manipulative needs.

    In this context, I completely disagree with you (&her). Good done is good done, whether your motivation is the photo-op or the little glowy feeling you get from being such a moral citizen. The point is not you, but the outcome.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Her whole thing is that altruism is, at its root, completely evil and driven by selfish and manipulative needs.

    In this context, I completely disagree with you (&her). Good done is good done, whether your motivation is the photo-op or the little glowy feeling you get from being such a moral citizen. The point is not you, but the outcome.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Her whole thing is that altruism is, at its root, completely evil and driven by selfish and manipulative needs.

    In this context, I completely disagree with you (&her). Good done is good done, whether your motivation is the photo-op or the little glowy feeling you get from being such a moral citizen. The point is not you, but the outcome.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Her whole thing is that altruism is, at its root, completely evil and driven by selfish and manipulative needs.

    In this context, I completely disagree with you (&her). Good done is good done, whether your motivation is the photo-op or the little glowy feeling you get from being such a moral citizen. The point is not you, but the outcome.

  • diva_dot

    Sounds like an image thing. Somebody in PR probably was stuck for an idea on how to donate, and just thought up the best possible way for the company to look as caring a possible.

    Even though it probably doesn’t care much about non-profit organizations when there’s not a huge disaster going on. You never know, though. Anything for a tax write-off these days.

  • diva_dot

    Sounds like an image thing. Somebody in PR probably was stuck for an idea on how to donate, and just thought up the best possible way for the company to look as caring a possible.

    Even though it probably doesn’t care much about non-profit organizations when there’s not a huge disaster going on. You never know, though. Anything for a tax write-off these days.

  • diva_dot

    Sounds like an image thing. Somebody in PR probably was stuck for an idea on how to donate, and just thought up the best possible way for the company to look as caring a possible.

    Even though it probably doesn’t care much about non-profit organizations when there’s not a huge disaster going on. You never know, though. Anything for a tax write-off these days.

  • diva_dot

    Sounds like an image thing. Somebody in PR probably was stuck for an idea on how to donate, and just thought up the best possible way for the company to look as caring a possible.

    Even though it probably doesn’t care much about non-profit organizations when there’s not a huge disaster going on. You never know, though. Anything for a tax write-off these days.

  • diva_dot

    Sounds like an image thing. Somebody in PR probably was stuck for an idea on how to donate, and just thought up the best possible way for the company to look as caring a possible.

    Even though it probably doesn’t care much about non-profit organizations when there’s not a huge disaster going on. You never know, though. Anything for a tax write-off these days.

  • diva_dot

    Sounds like an image thing. Somebody in PR probably was stuck for an idea on how to donate, and just thought up the best possible way for the company to look as caring a possible.

    Even though it probably doesn’t care much about non-profit organizations when there’s not a huge disaster going on. You never know, though. Anything for a tax write-off these days.

  • diva_dot

    Sounds like an image thing. Somebody in PR probably was stuck for an idea on how to donate, and just thought up the best possible way for the company to look as caring a possible.

    Even though it probably doesn’t care much about non-profit organizations when there’s not a huge disaster going on. You never know, though. Anything for a tax write-off these days.

  • diva_dot

    Sounds like an image thing. Somebody in PR probably was stuck for an idea on how to donate, and just thought up the best possible way for the company to look as caring a possible.

    Even though it probably doesn’t care much about non-profit organizations when there’s not a huge disaster going on. You never know, though. Anything for a tax write-off these days.

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, we gave as a corporation to the Red Cross, and I think that’s where the voluntary donations from today are going (although to be honest, I haven’t seen a can or a bottle yet).

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, we gave as a corporation to the Red Cross, and I think that’s where the voluntary donations from today are going (although to be honest, I haven’t seen a can or a bottle yet).

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, we gave as a corporation to the Red Cross, and I think that’s where the voluntary donations from today are going (although to be honest, I haven’t seen a can or a bottle yet).

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, we gave as a corporation to the Red Cross, and I think that’s where the voluntary donations from today are going (although to be honest, I haven’t seen a can or a bottle yet).

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, we gave as a corporation to the Red Cross, and I think that’s where the voluntary donations from today are going (although to be honest, I haven’t seen a can or a bottle yet).

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, we gave as a corporation to the Red Cross, and I think that’s where the voluntary donations from today are going (although to be honest, I haven’t seen a can or a bottle yet).

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, we gave as a corporation to the Red Cross, and I think that’s where the voluntary donations from today are going (although to be honest, I haven’t seen a can or a bottle yet).

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, we gave as a corporation to the Red Cross, and I think that’s where the voluntary donations from today are going (although to be honest, I haven’t seen a can or a bottle yet).

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    The Livestrong slash stick a red white and blue or just plain old yellow magnetic ribbon on your car – heard mentality I see everwhere reminds me exactly of jeans days for charity.

    Why do we feel the need to bribe ourselves towards giving? People should pay five bucks to cake themselves in mud and then try to work all day dripping wet. “Swallow this cholera water and try to work – all for a $10 donation.”

    For the record, I do all the jeans days. I’m more comfortable and it saves on dry cleaning.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    The Livestrong slash stick a red white and blue or just plain old yellow magnetic ribbon on your car – heard mentality I see everwhere reminds me exactly of jeans days for charity.

    Why do we feel the need to bribe ourselves towards giving? People should pay five bucks to cake themselves in mud and then try to work all day dripping wet. “Swallow this cholera water and try to work – all for a $10 donation.”

    For the record, I do all the jeans days. I’m more comfortable and it saves on dry cleaning.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    The Livestrong slash stick a red white and blue or just plain old yellow magnetic ribbon on your car – heard mentality I see everwhere reminds me exactly of jeans days for charity.

    Why do we feel the need to bribe ourselves towards giving? People should pay five bucks to cake themselves in mud and then try to work all day dripping wet. “Swallow this cholera water and try to work – all for a $10 donation.”

    For the record, I do all the jeans days. I’m more comfortable and it saves on dry cleaning.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    The Livestrong slash stick a red white and blue or just plain old yellow magnetic ribbon on your car – heard mentality I see everwhere reminds me exactly of jeans days for charity.

    Why do we feel the need to bribe ourselves towards giving? People should pay five bucks to cake themselves in mud and then try to work all day dripping wet. “Swallow this cholera water and try to work – all for a $10 donation.”

    For the record, I do all the jeans days. I’m more comfortable and it saves on dry cleaning.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    The Livestrong slash stick a red white and blue or just plain old yellow magnetic ribbon on your car – heard mentality I see everwhere reminds me exactly of jeans days for charity.

    Why do we feel the need to bribe ourselves towards giving? People should pay five bucks to cake themselves in mud and then try to work all day dripping wet. “Swallow this cholera water and try to work – all for a $10 donation.”

    For the record, I do all the jeans days. I’m more comfortable and it saves on dry cleaning.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    The Livestrong slash stick a red white and blue or just plain old yellow magnetic ribbon on your car – heard mentality I see everwhere reminds me exactly of jeans days for charity.

    Why do we feel the need to bribe ourselves towards giving? People should pay five bucks to cake themselves in mud and then try to work all day dripping wet. “Swallow this cholera water and try to work – all for a $10 donation.”

    For the record, I do all the jeans days. I’m more comfortable and it saves on dry cleaning.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    The Livestrong slash stick a red white and blue or just plain old yellow magnetic ribbon on your car – heard mentality I see everwhere reminds me exactly of jeans days for charity.

    Why do we feel the need to bribe ourselves towards giving? People should pay five bucks to cake themselves in mud and then try to work all day dripping wet. “Swallow this cholera water and try to work – all for a $10 donation.”

    For the record, I do all the jeans days. I’m more comfortable and it saves on dry cleaning.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    The Livestrong slash stick a red white and blue or just plain old yellow magnetic ribbon on your car – heard mentality I see everwhere reminds me exactly of jeans days for charity.

    Why do we feel the need to bribe ourselves towards giving? People should pay five bucks to cake themselves in mud and then try to work all day dripping wet. “Swallow this cholera water and try to work – all for a $10 donation.”

    For the record, I do all the jeans days. I’m more comfortable and it saves on dry cleaning.

  • radioactiveart

    Ahhhh…Italian Madonna? It works for me, me darling. 😉

  • radioactiveart

    Ahhhh…Italian Madonna? It works for me, me darling. 😉

  • radioactiveart

    Ahhhh…Italian Madonna? It works for me, me darling. 😉

  • radioactiveart

    Ahhhh…Italian Madonna? It works for me, me darling. 😉

  • radioactiveart

    Ahhhh…Italian Madonna? It works for me, me darling. 😉

  • radioactiveart

    Ahhhh…Italian Madonna? It works for me, me darling. 😉

  • radioactiveart

    Ahhhh…Italian Madonna? It works for me, me darling. 😉

  • radioactiveart

    Ahhhh…Italian Madonna? It works for me, me darling. 😉

  • diva_dot

    LOL…brilliant!

    also, if you combine drowning children and MREs with the donations we’re giving from DuPont, you can also eat Solae soy protein bars while donning a Tyvek suit to protect yourself from diseases as you go to look for your dead relatives! what a great picnic! thanks, DuPont! (don’t get me wrong, we’ve also donated thousands upon thousands of dollars….)

    donating to tsunami relief would be a hell of a lot less tacky if they would have designated donation money for the red cross or unicef–organizations that are helping the relief, instead of just “we’re dressing down for tsunami victims!”

  • diva_dot

    LOL…brilliant!

    also, if you combine drowning children and MREs with the donations we’re giving from DuPont, you can also eat Solae soy protein bars while donning a Tyvek suit to protect yourself from diseases as you go to look for your dead relatives! what a great picnic! thanks, DuPont! (don’t get me wrong, we’ve also donated thousands upon thousands of dollars….)

    donating to tsunami relief would be a hell of a lot less tacky if they would have designated donation money for the red cross or unicef–organizations that are helping the relief, instead of just “we’re dressing down for tsunami victims!”

  • diva_dot

    LOL…brilliant!

    also, if you combine drowning children and MREs with the donations we’re giving from DuPont, you can also eat Solae soy protein bars while donning a Tyvek suit to protect yourself from diseases as you go to look for your dead relatives! what a great picnic! thanks, DuPont! (don’t get me wrong, we’ve also donated thousands upon thousands of dollars….)

    donating to tsunami relief would be a hell of a lot less tacky if they would have designated donation money for the red cross or unicef–organizations that are helping the relief, instead of just “we’re dressing down for tsunami victims!”

  • diva_dot

    LOL…brilliant!

    also, if you combine drowning children and MREs with the donations we’re giving from DuPont, you can also eat Solae soy protein bars while donning a Tyvek suit to protect yourself from diseases as you go to look for your dead relatives! what a great picnic! thanks, DuPont! (don’t get me wrong, we’ve also donated thousands upon thousands of dollars….)

    donating to tsunami relief would be a hell of a lot less tacky if they would have designated donation money for the red cross or unicef–organizations that are helping the relief, instead of just “we’re dressing down for tsunami victims!”

  • diva_dot

    LOL…brilliant!

    also, if you combine drowning children and MREs with the donations we’re giving from DuPont, you can also eat Solae soy protein bars while donning a Tyvek suit to protect yourself from diseases as you go to look for your dead relatives! what a great picnic! thanks, DuPont! (don’t get me wrong, we’ve also donated thousands upon thousands of dollars….)

    donating to tsunami relief would be a hell of a lot less tacky if they would have designated donation money for the red cross or unicef–organizations that are helping the relief, instead of just “we’re dressing down for tsunami victims!”

  • diva_dot

    LOL…brilliant!

    also, if you combine drowning children and MREs with the donations we’re giving from DuPont, you can also eat Solae soy protein bars while donning a Tyvek suit to protect yourself from diseases as you go to look for your dead relatives! what a great picnic! thanks, DuPont! (don’t get me wrong, we’ve also donated thousands upon thousands of dollars….)

    donating to tsunami relief would be a hell of a lot less tacky if they would have designated donation money for the red cross or unicef–organizations that are helping the relief, instead of just “we’re dressing down for tsunami victims!”

  • diva_dot

    LOL…brilliant!

    also, if you combine drowning children and MREs with the donations we’re giving from DuPont, you can also eat Solae soy protein bars while donning a Tyvek suit to protect yourself from diseases as you go to look for your dead relatives! what a great picnic! thanks, DuPont! (don’t get me wrong, we’ve also donated thousands upon thousands of dollars….)

    donating to tsunami relief would be a hell of a lot less tacky if they would have designated donation money for the red cross or unicef–organizations that are helping the relief, instead of just “we’re dressing down for tsunami victims!”

  • diva_dot

    LOL…brilliant!

    also, if you combine drowning children and MREs with the donations we’re giving from DuPont, you can also eat Solae soy protein bars while donning a Tyvek suit to protect yourself from diseases as you go to look for your dead relatives! what a great picnic! thanks, DuPont! (don’t get me wrong, we’ve also donated thousands upon thousands of dollars….)

    donating to tsunami relief would be a hell of a lot less tacky if they would have designated donation money for the red cross or unicef–organizations that are helping the relief, instead of just “we’re dressing down for tsunami victims!”

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    It’s only evil because it is done for alltogether non altruistic reasons.

    Is the basketball player evil for volunteering and donating at a soup kitchen for the photo op – even if the time and money donated does serious good? I think it is very evil.

    Ayn Rand… nope. Not in forever.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    It’s only evil because it is done for alltogether non altruistic reasons.

    Is the basketball player evil for volunteering and donating at a soup kitchen for the photo op – even if the time and money donated does serious good? I think it is very evil.

    Ayn Rand… nope. Not in forever.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    It’s only evil because it is done for alltogether non altruistic reasons.

    Is the basketball player evil for volunteering and donating at a soup kitchen for the photo op – even if the time and money donated does serious good? I think it is very evil.

    Ayn Rand… nope. Not in forever.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    It’s only evil because it is done for alltogether non altruistic reasons.

    Is the basketball player evil for volunteering and donating at a soup kitchen for the photo op – even if the time and money donated does serious good? I think it is very evil.

    Ayn Rand… nope. Not in forever.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    It’s only evil because it is done for alltogether non altruistic reasons.

    Is the basketball player evil for volunteering and donating at a soup kitchen for the photo op – even if the time and money donated does serious good? I think it is very evil.

    Ayn Rand… nope. Not in forever.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    It’s only evil because it is done for alltogether non altruistic reasons.

    Is the basketball player evil for volunteering and donating at a soup kitchen for the photo op – even if the time and money donated does serious good? I think it is very evil.

    Ayn Rand… nope. Not in forever.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    It’s only evil because it is done for alltogether non altruistic reasons.

    Is the basketball player evil for volunteering and donating at a soup kitchen for the photo op – even if the time and money donated does serious good? I think it is very evil.

    Ayn Rand… nope. Not in forever.

  • johnpowers

    Re: Me so cynical

    It’s only evil because it is done for alltogether non altruistic reasons.

    Is the basketball player evil for volunteering and donating at a soup kitchen for the photo op – even if the time and money donated does serious good? I think it is very evil.

    Ayn Rand… nope. Not in forever.

  • radioactiveart

    Re: Me so cynical

    This is basically my feeling, as well.

    I run the various “diversity/inclusion” awareness programs around this joint. I know for a fact we would likely not be doing them if it didn’t make business sense to do them — legally, retention wise, etc. It was only when it became obvious that issues here were threatening to undermine business success that we geared up on this.

    Why do I do them, Why do I stay?

    sigh…

    Because no one looks over my shoulder when I do them, and I get to say pretty much what I want. Because I have some allies (yeah, even at much higher levels) who do care and they say and do the right stuff, and know I’m doing the right stuff.

    Because in the long run, I’d rather be the guy doing this than someone else who didn’t come at it from my viewpoint. Sounds egocentric, selfish, I know. But it’s true.

    Internal subversion of institutions, no matter how subtle, IS a tool for social change. A small one, but not unimportant.

  • radioactiveart

    Re: Me so cynical

    This is basically my feeling, as well.

    I run the various “diversity/inclusion” awareness programs around this joint. I know for a fact we would likely not be doing them if it didn’t make business sense to do them — legally, retention wise, etc. It was only when it became obvious that issues here were threatening to undermine business success that we geared up on this.

    Why do I do them, Why do I stay?

    sigh…

    Because no one looks over my shoulder when I do them, and I get to say pretty much what I want. Because I have some allies (yeah, even at much higher levels) who do care and they say and do the right stuff, and know I’m doing the right stuff.

    Because in the long run, I’d rather be the guy doing this than someone else who didn’t come at it from my viewpoint. Sounds egocentric, selfish, I know. But it’s true.

    Internal subversion of institutions, no matter how subtle, IS a tool for social change. A small one, but not unimportant.

  • radioactiveart

    Re: Me so cynical

    This is basically my feeling, as well.

    I run the various “diversity/inclusion” awareness programs around this joint. I know for a fact we would likely not be doing them if it didn’t make business sense to do them — legally, retention wise, etc. It was only when it became obvious that issues here were threatening to undermine business success that we geared up on this.

    Why do I do them, Why do I stay?

    sigh…

    Because no one looks over my shoulder when I do them, and I get to say pretty much what I want. Because I have some allies (yeah, even at much higher levels) who do care and they say and do the right stuff, and know I’m doing the right stuff.

    Because in the long run, I’d rather be the guy doing this than someone else who didn’t come at it from my viewpoint. Sounds egocentric, selfish, I know. But it’s true.

    Internal subversion of institutions, no matter how subtle, IS a tool for social change. A small one, but not unimportant.

  • radioactiveart

    Re: Me so cynical

    This is basically my feeling, as well.

    I run the various “diversity/inclusion” awareness programs around this joint. I know for a fact we would likely not be doing them if it didn’t make business sense to do them — legally, retention wise, etc. It was only when it became obvious that issues here were threatening to undermine business success that we geared up on this.

    Why do I do them, Why do I stay?

    sigh…

    Because no one looks over my shoulder when I do them, and I get to say pretty much what I want. Because I have some allies (yeah, even at much higher levels) who do care and they say and do the right stuff, and know I’m doing the right stuff.

    Because in the long run, I’d rather be the guy doing this than someone else who didn’t come at it from my viewpoint. Sounds egocentric, selfish, I know. But it’s true.

    Internal subversion of institutions, no matter how subtle, IS a tool for social change. A small one, but not unimportant.

  • radioactiveart

    Re: Me so cynical

    This is basically my feeling, as well.

    I run the various “diversity/inclusion” awareness programs around this joint. I know for a fact we would likely not be doing them if it didn’t make business sense to do them — legally, retention wise, etc. It was only when it became obvious that issues here were threatening to undermine business success that we geared up on this.

    Why do I do them, Why do I stay?

    sigh…

    Because no one looks over my shoulder when I do them, and I get to say pretty much what I want. Because I have some allies (yeah, even at much higher levels) who do care and they say and do the right stuff, and know I’m doing the right stuff.

    Because in the long run, I’d rather be the guy doing this than someone else who didn’t come at it from my viewpoint. Sounds egocentric, selfish, I know. But it’s true.

    Internal subversion of institutions, no matter how subtle, IS a tool for social change. A small one, but not unimportant.

  • radioactiveart

    Re: Me so cynical

    This is basically my feeling, as well.

    I run the various “diversity/inclusion” awareness programs around this joint. I know for a fact we would likely not be doing them if it didn’t make business sense to do them — legally, retention wise, etc. It was only when it became obvious that issues here were threatening to undermine business success that we geared up on this.

    Why do I do them, Why do I stay?

    sigh…

    Because no one looks over my shoulder when I do them, and I get to say pretty much what I want. Because I have some allies (yeah, even at much higher levels) who do care and they say and do the right stuff, and know I’m doing the right stuff.

    Because in the long run, I’d rather be the guy doing this than someone else who didn’t come at it from my viewpoint. Sounds egocentric, selfish, I know. But it’s true.

    Internal subversion of institutions, no matter how subtle, IS a tool for social change. A small one, but not unimportant.

  • radioactiveart

    Re: Me so cynical

    This is basically my feeling, as well.

    I run the various “diversity/inclusion” awareness programs around this joint. I know for a fact we would likely not be doing them if it didn’t make business sense to do them — legally, retention wise, etc. It was only when it became obvious that issues here were threatening to undermine business success that we geared up on this.

    Why do I do them, Why do I stay?

    sigh…

    Because no one looks over my shoulder when I do them, and I get to say pretty much what I want. Because I have some allies (yeah, even at much higher levels) who do care and they say and do the right stuff, and know I’m doing the right stuff.

    Because in the long run, I’d rather be the guy doing this than someone else who didn’t come at it from my viewpoint. Sounds egocentric, selfish, I know. But it’s true.

    Internal subversion of institutions, no matter how subtle, IS a tool for social change. A small one, but not unimportant.

  • radioactiveart

    Re: Me so cynical

    This is basically my feeling, as well.

    I run the various “diversity/inclusion” awareness programs around this joint. I know for a fact we would likely not be doing them if it didn’t make business sense to do them — legally, retention wise, etc. It was only when it became obvious that issues here were threatening to undermine business success that we geared up on this.

    Why do I do them, Why do I stay?

    sigh…

    Because no one looks over my shoulder when I do them, and I get to say pretty much what I want. Because I have some allies (yeah, even at much higher levels) who do care and they say and do the right stuff, and know I’m doing the right stuff.

    Because in the long run, I’d rather be the guy doing this than someone else who didn’t come at it from my viewpoint. Sounds egocentric, selfish, I know. But it’s true.

    Internal subversion of institutions, no matter how subtle, IS a tool for social change. A small one, but not unimportant.

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Companies do this because they want to be seen as altruistic, to make customers feel good about buying from them, and subsequently purchase more things more often. Remember the public realtions fiasco Starbucks had to deal with following the bottled water incident on 9/11? And I don’t know that making your employees happy is evil.

    Have you been reading The Fountainhead??

    (ps – cornered Jared & Providence is all set for iWPS)

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Companies do this because they want to be seen as altruistic, to make customers feel good about buying from them, and subsequently purchase more things more often. Remember the public realtions fiasco Starbucks had to deal with following the bottled water incident on 9/11? And I don’t know that making your employees happy is evil.

    Have you been reading The Fountainhead??

    (ps – cornered Jared & Providence is all set for iWPS)

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Companies do this because they want to be seen as altruistic, to make customers feel good about buying from them, and subsequently purchase more things more often. Remember the public realtions fiasco Starbucks had to deal with following the bottled water incident on 9/11? And I don’t know that making your employees happy is evil.

    Have you been reading The Fountainhead??

    (ps – cornered Jared & Providence is all set for iWPS)

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Companies do this because they want to be seen as altruistic, to make customers feel good about buying from them, and subsequently purchase more things more often. Remember the public realtions fiasco Starbucks had to deal with following the bottled water incident on 9/11? And I don’t know that making your employees happy is evil.

    Have you been reading The Fountainhead??

    (ps – cornered Jared & Providence is all set for iWPS)

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Companies do this because they want to be seen as altruistic, to make customers feel good about buying from them, and subsequently purchase more things more often. Remember the public realtions fiasco Starbucks had to deal with following the bottled water incident on 9/11? And I don’t know that making your employees happy is evil.

    Have you been reading The Fountainhead??

    (ps – cornered Jared & Providence is all set for iWPS)

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Companies do this because they want to be seen as altruistic, to make customers feel good about buying from them, and subsequently purchase more things more often. Remember the public realtions fiasco Starbucks had to deal with following the bottled water incident on 9/11? And I don’t know that making your employees happy is evil.

    Have you been reading The Fountainhead??

    (ps – cornered Jared & Providence is all set for iWPS)

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Companies do this because they want to be seen as altruistic, to make customers feel good about buying from them, and subsequently purchase more things more often. Remember the public realtions fiasco Starbucks had to deal with following the bottled water incident on 9/11? And I don’t know that making your employees happy is evil.

    Have you been reading The Fountainhead??

    (ps – cornered Jared & Providence is all set for iWPS)

  • mom_star

    Re: Me so cynical

    Companies do this because they want to be seen as altruistic, to make customers feel good about buying from them, and subsequently purchase more things more often. Remember the public realtions fiasco Starbucks had to deal with following the bottled water incident on 9/11? And I don’t know that making your employees happy is evil.

    Have you been reading The Fountainhead??

    (ps – cornered Jared & Providence is all set for iWPS)

  • johnpowers

    Me so cynical

    We have two dress down days a month here. We pay $3… just like you mentioned.

    I fully believe it’s all just an employee retention gimmick. A company’s only goal is increasing shareholder value. It does nothing else for no other reason.

    No serious publicity or marketing potential is going to come out of donating money to the tsunami relief. So no shareholder value.

    Why do companies do it then? Because it’s the right thing to do? No way, that’s bullshit. Public companies don’t do the right thing, they increase shareholder value. So they must be doing it for a reason… and my guess is to make their employees feel better about who they work for, make them a little more motivated to come in (the jeans day) and thus either socially engineer the employees to show some loyalty to the company and better yet increase production for a half a day.

    It’s pretty evil IMHO.

  • johnpowers

    Me so cynical

    We have two dress down days a month here. We pay $3… just like you mentioned.

    I fully believe it’s all just an employee retention gimmick. A company’s only goal is increasing shareholder value. It does nothing else for no other reason.

    No serious publicity or marketing potential is going to come out of donating money to the tsunami relief. So no shareholder value.

    Why do companies do it then? Because it’s the right thing to do? No way, that’s bullshit. Public companies don’t do the right thing, they increase shareholder value. So they must be doing it for a reason… and my guess is to make their employees feel better about who they work for, make them a little more motivated to come in (the jeans day) and thus either socially engineer the employees to show some loyalty to the company and better yet increase production for a half a day.

    It’s pretty evil IMHO.

  • johnpowers

    Me so cynical

    We have two dress down days a month here. We pay $3… just like you mentioned.

    I fully believe it’s all just an employee retention gimmick. A company’s only goal is increasing shareholder value. It does nothing else for no other reason.

    No serious publicity or marketing potential is going to come out of donating money to the tsunami relief. So no shareholder value.

    Why do companies do it then? Because it’s the right thing to do? No way, that’s bullshit. Public companies don’t do the right thing, they increase shareholder value. So they must be doing it for a reason… and my guess is to make their employees feel better about who they work for, make them a little more motivated to come in (the jeans day) and thus either socially engineer the employees to show some loyalty to the company and better yet increase production for a half a day.

    It’s pretty evil IMHO.

  • johnpowers

    Me so cynical

    We have two dress down days a month here. We pay $3… just like you mentioned.

    I fully believe it’s all just an employee retention gimmick. A company’s only goal is increasing shareholder value. It does nothing else for no other reason.

    No serious publicity or marketing potential is going to come out of donating money to the tsunami relief. So no shareholder value.

    Why do companies do it then? Because it’s the right thing to do? No way, that’s bullshit. Public companies don’t do the right thing, they increase shareholder value. So they must be doing it for a reason… and my guess is to make their employees feel better about who they work for, make them a little more motivated to come in (the jeans day) and thus either socially engineer the employees to show some loyalty to the company and better yet increase production for a half a day.

    It’s pretty evil IMHO.

  • johnpowers

    Me so cynical

    We have two dress down days a month here. We pay $3… just like you mentioned.

    I fully believe it’s all just an employee retention gimmick. A company’s only goal is increasing shareholder value. It does nothing else for no other reason.

    No serious publicity or marketing potential is going to come out of donating money to the tsunami relief. So no shareholder value.

    Why do companies do it then? Because it’s the right thing to do? No way, that’s bullshit. Public companies don’t do the right thing, they increase shareholder value. So they must be doing it for a reason… and my guess is to make their employees feel better about who they work for, make them a little more motivated to come in (the jeans day) and thus either socially engineer the employees to show some loyalty to the company and better yet increase production for a half a day.

    It’s pretty evil IMHO.

  • johnpowers

    Me so cynical

    We have two dress down days a month here. We pay $3… just like you mentioned.

    I fully believe it’s all just an employee retention gimmick. A company’s only goal is increasing shareholder value. It does nothing else for no other reason.

    No serious publicity or marketing potential is going to come out of donating money to the tsunami relief. So no shareholder value.

    Why do companies do it then? Because it’s the right thing to do? No way, that’s bullshit. Public companies don’t do the right thing, they increase shareholder value. So they must be doing it for a reason… and my guess is to make their employees feel better about who they work for, make them a little more motivated to come in (the jeans day) and thus either socially engineer the employees to show some loyalty to the company and better yet increase production for a half a day.

    It’s pretty evil IMHO.

  • johnpowers

    Me so cynical

    We have two dress down days a month here. We pay $3… just like you mentioned.

    I fully believe it’s all just an employee retention gimmick. A company’s only goal is increasing shareholder value. It does nothing else for no other reason.

    No serious publicity or marketing potential is going to come out of donating money to the tsunami relief. So no shareholder value.

    Why do companies do it then? Because it’s the right thing to do? No way, that’s bullshit. Public companies don’t do the right thing, they increase shareholder value. So they must be doing it for a reason… and my guess is to make their employees feel better about who they work for, make them a little more motivated to come in (the jeans day) and thus either socially engineer the employees to show some loyalty to the company and better yet increase production for a half a day.

    It’s pretty evil IMHO.

  • johnpowers

    Me so cynical

    We have two dress down days a month here. We pay $3… just like you mentioned.

    I fully believe it’s all just an employee retention gimmick. A company’s only goal is increasing shareholder value. It does nothing else for no other reason.

    No serious publicity or marketing potential is going to come out of donating money to the tsunami relief. So no shareholder value.

    Why do companies do it then? Because it’s the right thing to do? No way, that’s bullshit. Public companies don’t do the right thing, they increase shareholder value. So they must be doing it for a reason… and my guess is to make their employees feel better about who they work for, make them a little more motivated to come in (the jeans day) and thus either socially engineer the employees to show some loyalty to the company and better yet increase production for a half a day.

    It’s pretty evil IMHO.

  • ablueeyedboy

    That’s sort of a compliment… Samoan’s are the badest ass people i’ve ever met.

  • ablueeyedboy

    That’s sort of a compliment… Samoan’s are the badest ass people i’ve ever met.

  • ablueeyedboy

    That’s sort of a compliment… Samoan’s are the badest ass people i’ve ever met.

  • ablueeyedboy

    That’s sort of a compliment… Samoan’s are the badest ass people i’ve ever met.

  • ablueeyedboy

    That’s sort of a compliment… Samoan’s are the badest ass people i’ve ever met.

  • ablueeyedboy

    That’s sort of a compliment… Samoan’s are the badest ass people i’ve ever met.

  • ablueeyedboy

    That’s sort of a compliment… Samoan’s are the badest ass people i’ve ever met.

  • ablueeyedboy

    That’s sort of a compliment… Samoan’s are the badest ass people i’ve ever met.

  • euqort

    It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    but since it has, maybe it will still be okay.

    Fundraisers are often festive events. Happy, comfortable people reminded of how grateful they should be can open their wallets pretty wide.

    besitos y cufflinks
    T.

  • euqort

    It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    but since it has, maybe it will still be okay.

    Fundraisers are often festive events. Happy, comfortable people reminded of how grateful they should be can open their wallets pretty wide.

    besitos y cufflinks
    T.

  • euqort

    It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    but since it has, maybe it will still be okay.

    Fundraisers are often festive events. Happy, comfortable people reminded of how grateful they should be can open their wallets pretty wide.

    besitos y cufflinks
    T.

  • euqort

    It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    but since it has, maybe it will still be okay.

    Fundraisers are often festive events. Happy, comfortable people reminded of how grateful they should be can open their wallets pretty wide.

    besitos y cufflinks
    T.

  • euqort

    It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    but since it has, maybe it will still be okay.

    Fundraisers are often festive events. Happy, comfortable people reminded of how grateful they should be can open their wallets pretty wide.

    besitos y cufflinks
    T.

  • euqort

    It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    but since it has, maybe it will still be okay.

    Fundraisers are often festive events. Happy, comfortable people reminded of how grateful they should be can open their wallets pretty wide.

    besitos y cufflinks
    T.

  • euqort

    It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    but since it has, maybe it will still be okay.

    Fundraisers are often festive events. Happy, comfortable people reminded of how grateful they should be can open their wallets pretty wide.

    besitos y cufflinks
    T.

  • euqort

    It did take a turn for the off-putting,

    but since it has, maybe it will still be okay.

    Fundraisers are often festive events. Happy, comfortable people reminded of how grateful they should be can open their wallets pretty wide.

    besitos y cufflinks
    T.

  • rainbows27

    tsunami

    In Japan, it would not be uncommon for a company to donate relief funds as a group identuty and then hqave a social event afterwards. But this is not Japan. I think the company has lost the focus here.

    BTW, today my second grade students who missed art because of vacation will be completing their Japanese Hokusai prints, i.e. “The Great wave.” We’ll see how that goes…

  • rainbows27

    tsunami

    In Japan, it would not be uncommon for a company to donate relief funds as a group identuty and then hqave a social event afterwards. But this is not Japan. I think the company has lost the focus here.

    BTW, today my second grade students who missed art because of vacation will be completing their Japanese Hokusai prints, i.e. “The Great wave.” We’ll see how that goes…

  • rainbows27

    tsunami

    In Japan, it would not be uncommon for a company to donate relief funds as a group identuty and then hqave a social event afterwards. But this is not Japan. I think the company has lost the focus here.

    BTW, today my second grade students who missed art because of vacation will be completing their Japanese Hokusai prints, i.e. “The Great wave.” We’ll see how that goes…

  • rainbows27

    tsunami

    In Japan, it would not be uncommon for a company to donate relief funds as a group identuty and then hqave a social event afterwards. But this is not Japan. I think the company has lost the focus here.

    BTW, today my second grade students who missed art because of vacation will be completing their Japanese Hokusai prints, i.e. “The Great wave.” We’ll see how that goes…

  • rainbows27

    tsunami

    In Japan, it would not be uncommon for a company to donate relief funds as a group identuty and then hqave a social event afterwards. But this is not Japan. I think the company has lost the focus here.

    BTW, today my second grade students who missed art because of vacation will be completing their Japanese Hokusai prints, i.e. “The Great wave.” We’ll see how that goes…

  • rainbows27

    tsunami

    In Japan, it would not be uncommon for a company to donate relief funds as a group identuty and then hqave a social event afterwards. But this is not Japan. I think the company has lost the focus here.

    BTW, today my second grade students who missed art because of vacation will be completing their Japanese Hokusai prints, i.e. “The Great wave.” We’ll see how that goes…

  • rainbows27

    tsunami

    In Japan, it would not be uncommon for a company to donate relief funds as a group identuty and then hqave a social event afterwards. But this is not Japan. I think the company has lost the focus here.

    BTW, today my second grade students who missed art because of vacation will be completing their Japanese Hokusai prints, i.e. “The Great wave.” We’ll see how that goes…

  • rainbows27

    tsunami

    In Japan, it would not be uncommon for a company to donate relief funds as a group identuty and then hqave a social event afterwards. But this is not Japan. I think the company has lost the focus here.

    BTW, today my second grade students who missed art because of vacation will be completing their Japanese Hokusai prints, i.e. “The Great wave.” We’ll see how that goes…

  • princessbebop

    Gawah. I am so glad I’m not in that environment. I’ve never been one of the ‘thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed’ women. Ever. I have a face like a Italian Renaissance madonna, which isn’t so in these days.

    Ponchos. What a mistake. Gwah. Why? Why?

    Hmm… Heathers with Matrix fight scenes… starring Lindsay Lohan!

  • princessbebop

    Gawah. I am so glad I’m not in that environment. I’ve never been one of the ‘thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed’ women. Ever. I have a face like a Italian Renaissance madonna, which isn’t so in these days.

    Ponchos. What a mistake. Gwah. Why? Why?

    Hmm… Heathers with Matrix fight scenes… starring Lindsay Lohan!

  • princessbebop

    Gawah. I am so glad I’m not in that environment. I’ve never been one of the ‘thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed’ women. Ever. I have a face like a Italian Renaissance madonna, which isn’t so in these days.

    Ponchos. What a mistake. Gwah. Why? Why?

    Hmm… Heathers with Matrix fight scenes… starring Lindsay Lohan!

  • princessbebop

    Gawah. I am so glad I’m not in that environment. I’ve never been one of the ‘thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed’ women. Ever. I have a face like a Italian Renaissance madonna, which isn’t so in these days.

    Ponchos. What a mistake. Gwah. Why? Why?

    Hmm… Heathers with Matrix fight scenes… starring Lindsay Lohan!

  • princessbebop

    Gawah. I am so glad I’m not in that environment. I’ve never been one of the ‘thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed’ women. Ever. I have a face like a Italian Renaissance madonna, which isn’t so in these days.

    Ponchos. What a mistake. Gwah. Why? Why?

    Hmm… Heathers with Matrix fight scenes… starring Lindsay Lohan!

  • princessbebop

    Gawah. I am so glad I’m not in that environment. I’ve never been one of the ‘thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed’ women. Ever. I have a face like a Italian Renaissance madonna, which isn’t so in these days.

    Ponchos. What a mistake. Gwah. Why? Why?

    Hmm… Heathers with Matrix fight scenes… starring Lindsay Lohan!

  • princessbebop

    Gawah. I am so glad I’m not in that environment. I’ve never been one of the ‘thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed’ women. Ever. I have a face like a Italian Renaissance madonna, which isn’t so in these days.

    Ponchos. What a mistake. Gwah. Why? Why?

    Hmm… Heathers with Matrix fight scenes… starring Lindsay Lohan!

  • princessbebop

    Gawah. I am so glad I’m not in that environment. I’ve never been one of the ‘thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed’ women. Ever. I have a face like a Italian Renaissance madonna, which isn’t so in these days.

    Ponchos. What a mistake. Gwah. Why? Why?

    Hmm… Heathers with Matrix fight scenes… starring Lindsay Lohan!

  • javabill

    i think they need to take it the other way to get everyone into the spirit of the tsunami’s impact.

    for example, combine dress-down** day with take your child to work day. then stand at the door & take away every third child or parent & drown them on the spot. those that get past the door get covered with mud & slammed into a wall with a fire hose.

    for lunch you could have a picnic of MREs on the lawn.
    first come, first served.

    ** dress-down in this case being any clothing not ripped off your back by the force of the water.

  • javabill

    i think they need to take it the other way to get everyone into the spirit of the tsunami’s impact.

    for example, combine dress-down** day with take your child to work day. then stand at the door & take away every third child or parent & drown them on the spot. those that get past the door get covered with mud & slammed into a wall with a fire hose.

    for lunch you could have a picnic of MREs on the lawn.
    first come, first served.

    ** dress-down in this case being any clothing not ripped off your back by the force of the water.

  • javabill

    i think they need to take it the other way to get everyone into the spirit of the tsunami’s impact.

    for example, combine dress-down** day with take your child to work day. then stand at the door & take away every third child or parent & drown them on the spot. those that get past the door get covered with mud & slammed into a wall with a fire hose.

    for lunch you could have a picnic of MREs on the lawn.
    first come, first served.

    ** dress-down in this case being any clothing not ripped off your back by the force of the water.

  • javabill

    i think they need to take it the other way to get everyone into the spirit of the tsunami’s impact.

    for example, combine dress-down** day with take your child to work day. then stand at the door & take away every third child or parent & drown them on the spot. those that get past the door get covered with mud & slammed into a wall with a fire hose.

    for lunch you could have a picnic of MREs on the lawn.
    first come, first served.

    ** dress-down in this case being any clothing not ripped off your back by the force of the water.

  • javabill

    i think they need to take it the other way to get everyone into the spirit of the tsunami’s impact.

    for example, combine dress-down** day with take your child to work day. then stand at the door & take away every third child or parent & drown them on the spot. those that get past the door get covered with mud & slammed into a wall with a fire hose.

    for lunch you could have a picnic of MREs on the lawn.
    first come, first served.

    ** dress-down in this case being any clothing not ripped off your back by the force of the water.

  • javabill

    i think they need to take it the other way to get everyone into the spirit of the tsunami’s impact.

    for example, combine dress-down** day with take your child to work day. then stand at the door & take away every third child or parent & drown them on the spot. those that get past the door get covered with mud & slammed into a wall with a fire hose.

    for lunch you could have a picnic of MREs on the lawn.
    first come, first served.

    ** dress-down in this case being any clothing not ripped off your back by the force of the water.

  • javabill

    i think they need to take it the other way to get everyone into the spirit of the tsunami’s impact.

    for example, combine dress-down** day with take your child to work day. then stand at the door & take away every third child or parent & drown them on the spot. those that get past the door get covered with mud & slammed into a wall with a fire hose.

    for lunch you could have a picnic of MREs on the lawn.
    first come, first served.

    ** dress-down in this case being any clothing not ripped off your back by the force of the water.

  • javabill

    i think they need to take it the other way to get everyone into the spirit of the tsunami’s impact.

    for example, combine dress-down** day with take your child to work day. then stand at the door & take away every third child or parent & drown them on the spot. those that get past the door get covered with mud & slammed into a wall with a fire hose.

    for lunch you could have a picnic of MREs on the lawn.
    first come, first served.

    ** dress-down in this case being any clothing not ripped off your back by the force of the water.

  • radioactiveart

    I like this.

    of course, i could just take people to my office, and tell em it’s a diorama of the flood area.

  • radioactiveart

    I like this.

    of course, i could just take people to my office, and tell em it’s a diorama of the flood area.

  • radioactiveart

    I like this.

    of course, i could just take people to my office, and tell em it’s a diorama of the flood area.

  • radioactiveart

    I like this.

    of course, i could just take people to my office, and tell em it’s a diorama of the flood area.

  • radioactiveart

    I like this.

    of course, i could just take people to my office, and tell em it’s a diorama of the flood area.

  • radioactiveart

    I like this.

    of course, i could just take people to my office, and tell em it’s a diorama of the flood area.

  • radioactiveart

    I like this.

    of course, i could just take people to my office, and tell em it’s a diorama of the flood area.

  • radioactiveart

    I like this.

    of course, i could just take people to my office, and tell em it’s a diorama of the flood area.

  • campana

    walk in tomorrow with your pant legs rolled up dripping wet. oh shit, now i’m going to hell!

  • campana

    walk in tomorrow with your pant legs rolled up dripping wet. oh shit, now i’m going to hell!

  • campana

    walk in tomorrow with your pant legs rolled up dripping wet. oh shit, now i’m going to hell!

  • campana

    walk in tomorrow with your pant legs rolled up dripping wet. oh shit, now i’m going to hell!

  • campana

    walk in tomorrow with your pant legs rolled up dripping wet. oh shit, now i’m going to hell!

  • campana

    walk in tomorrow with your pant legs rolled up dripping wet. oh shit, now i’m going to hell!

  • campana

    walk in tomorrow with your pant legs rolled up dripping wet. oh shit, now i’m going to hell!

  • campana

    walk in tomorrow with your pant legs rolled up dripping wet. oh shit, now i’m going to hell!

  • radioactiveart

    I used to wear Hawaiian shirts all the time until I gained so much weight that people started speaking Samoan to me.

    No, I’m not kidding.

  • radioactiveart

    I used to wear Hawaiian shirts all the time until I gained so much weight that people started speaking Samoan to me.

    No, I’m not kidding.

  • radioactiveart

    I used to wear Hawaiian shirts all the time until I gained so much weight that people started speaking Samoan to me.

    No, I’m not kidding.

  • radioactiveart

    I used to wear Hawaiian shirts all the time until I gained so much weight that people started speaking Samoan to me.

    No, I’m not kidding.

  • radioactiveart

    I used to wear Hawaiian shirts all the time until I gained so much weight that people started speaking Samoan to me.

    No, I’m not kidding.

  • radioactiveart

    I used to wear Hawaiian shirts all the time until I gained so much weight that people started speaking Samoan to me.

    No, I’m not kidding.

  • radioactiveart

    I used to wear Hawaiian shirts all the time until I gained so much weight that people started speaking Samoan to me.

    No, I’m not kidding.

  • radioactiveart

    I used to wear Hawaiian shirts all the time until I gained so much weight that people started speaking Samoan to me.

    No, I’m not kidding.

  • ocvictor

    Well, it’s easy to get swept up in it…

    I’ll stop now.

  • ocvictor

    Well, it’s easy to get swept up in it…

    I’ll stop now.

  • ocvictor

    Well, it’s easy to get swept up in it…

    I’ll stop now.

  • ocvictor

    Well, it’s easy to get swept up in it…

    I’ll stop now.

  • ocvictor

    Well, it’s easy to get swept up in it…

    I’ll stop now.

  • ocvictor

    Well, it’s easy to get swept up in it…

    I’ll stop now.

  • ocvictor

    Well, it’s easy to get swept up in it…

    I’ll stop now.

  • ocvictor

    Well, it’s easy to get swept up in it…

    I’ll stop now.

  • ted_badger

    The CFO of my parent company wears the Hawaiian shirt every day. It annoys me to no end. And yeah, that would be SO wrong for a tsunami campaign 🙂

  • ted_badger

    The CFO of my parent company wears the Hawaiian shirt every day. It annoys me to no end. And yeah, that would be SO wrong for a tsunami campaign 🙂

  • ted_badger

    The CFO of my parent company wears the Hawaiian shirt every day. It annoys me to no end. And yeah, that would be SO wrong for a tsunami campaign 🙂

  • ted_badger

    The CFO of my parent company wears the Hawaiian shirt every day. It annoys me to no end. And yeah, that would be SO wrong for a tsunami campaign 🙂

  • ted_badger

    The CFO of my parent company wears the Hawaiian shirt every day. It annoys me to no end. And yeah, that would be SO wrong for a tsunami campaign 🙂

  • ted_badger

    The CFO of my parent company wears the Hawaiian shirt every day. It annoys me to no end. And yeah, that would be SO wrong for a tsunami campaign 🙂

  • ted_badger

    The CFO of my parent company wears the Hawaiian shirt every day. It annoys me to no end. And yeah, that would be SO wrong for a tsunami campaign 🙂

  • ted_badger

    The CFO of my parent company wears the Hawaiian shirt every day. It annoys me to no end. And yeah, that would be SO wrong for a tsunami campaign 🙂

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we took the day off, for obvious reasons.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we took the day off, for obvious reasons.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we took the day off, for obvious reasons.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we took the day off, for obvious reasons.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we took the day off, for obvious reasons.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we took the day off, for obvious reasons.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we took the day off, for obvious reasons.

  • radioactiveart

    Well, we took the day off, for obvious reasons.

  • myainsel

    I’ll be right behind you for wanting to photoshop a vogue ad with fashion models standing over beaches full of bodies.

  • myainsel

    I’ll be right behind you for wanting to photoshop a vogue ad with fashion models standing over beaches full of bodies.

  • myainsel

    I’ll be right behind you for wanting to photoshop a vogue ad with fashion models standing over beaches full of bodies.

  • myainsel

    I’ll be right behind you for wanting to photoshop a vogue ad with fashion models standing over beaches full of bodies.

  • myainsel

    I’ll be right behind you for wanting to photoshop a vogue ad with fashion models standing over beaches full of bodies.

  • myainsel

    I’ll be right behind you for wanting to photoshop a vogue ad with fashion models standing over beaches full of bodies.

  • myainsel

    I’ll be right behind you for wanting to photoshop a vogue ad with fashion models standing over beaches full of bodies.

  • myainsel

    I’ll be right behind you for wanting to photoshop a vogue ad with fashion models standing over beaches full of bodies.

  • radioactiveart

    Third time that going to hell thing has showed up in this post.

    it’s like a giant wave of cliches.

    I am so, so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    Third time that going to hell thing has showed up in this post.

    it’s like a giant wave of cliches.

    I am so, so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    Third time that going to hell thing has showed up in this post.

    it’s like a giant wave of cliches.

    I am so, so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    Third time that going to hell thing has showed up in this post.

    it’s like a giant wave of cliches.

    I am so, so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    Third time that going to hell thing has showed up in this post.

    it’s like a giant wave of cliches.

    I am so, so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    Third time that going to hell thing has showed up in this post.

    it’s like a giant wave of cliches.

    I am so, so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    Third time that going to hell thing has showed up in this post.

    it’s like a giant wave of cliches.

    I am so, so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    Third time that going to hell thing has showed up in this post.

    it’s like a giant wave of cliches.

    I am so, so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    “That debris pile? Totally out of place there. And let’s just accessorize that sopping wet rag with a nice brooch, shall we?”

    I’m so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    “That debris pile? Totally out of place there. And let’s just accessorize that sopping wet rag with a nice brooch, shall we?”

    I’m so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    “That debris pile? Totally out of place there. And let’s just accessorize that sopping wet rag with a nice brooch, shall we?”

    I’m so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    “That debris pile? Totally out of place there. And let’s just accessorize that sopping wet rag with a nice brooch, shall we?”

    I’m so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    “That debris pile? Totally out of place there. And let’s just accessorize that sopping wet rag with a nice brooch, shall we?”

    I’m so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    “That debris pile? Totally out of place there. And let’s just accessorize that sopping wet rag with a nice brooch, shall we?”

    I’m so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    “That debris pile? Totally out of place there. And let’s just accessorize that sopping wet rag with a nice brooch, shall we?”

    I’m so going to hell.

  • radioactiveart

    “That debris pile? Totally out of place there. And let’s just accessorize that sopping wet rag with a nice brooch, shall we?”

    I’m so going to hell.

  • dura_luxe

    It’s like when I worked at Almerica during the 1st anniversary of 9/11 and ya would have sworn it was a 4th of July picnic.

    People are morons.

    Rock the suit, Tony!

  • dura_luxe

    It’s like when I worked at Almerica during the 1st anniversary of 9/11 and ya would have sworn it was a 4th of July picnic.

    People are morons.

    Rock the suit, Tony!

  • dura_luxe

    It’s like when I worked at Almerica during the 1st anniversary of 9/11 and ya would have sworn it was a 4th of July picnic.

    People are morons.

    Rock the suit, Tony!

  • dura_luxe

    It’s like when I worked at Almerica during the 1st anniversary of 9/11 and ya would have sworn it was a 4th of July picnic.

    People are morons.

    Rock the suit, Tony!

  • dura_luxe

    It’s like when I worked at Almerica during the 1st anniversary of 9/11 and ya would have sworn it was a 4th of July picnic.

    People are morons.

    Rock the suit, Tony!

  • dura_luxe

    It’s like when I worked at Almerica during the 1st anniversary of 9/11 and ya would have sworn it was a 4th of July picnic.

    People are morons.

    Rock the suit, Tony!

  • dura_luxe

    It’s like when I worked at Almerica during the 1st anniversary of 9/11 and ya would have sworn it was a 4th of July picnic.

    People are morons.

    Rock the suit, Tony!

  • dura_luxe

    It’s like when I worked at Almerica during the 1st anniversary of 9/11 and ya would have sworn it was a 4th of July picnic.

    People are morons.

    Rock the suit, Tony!

  • ocvictor

    Persoanlly, I love the suit and cufflinks idea. Plus, you’ll look snazzy.

    Of course, you could always whistle surf tunes when you pass people in the halls.

    I am SO going to Hell.

  • ocvictor

    Persoanlly, I love the suit and cufflinks idea. Plus, you’ll look snazzy.

    Of course, you could always whistle surf tunes when you pass people in the halls.

    I am SO going to Hell.

  • ocvictor

    Persoanlly, I love the suit and cufflinks idea. Plus, you’ll look snazzy.

    Of course, you could always whistle surf tunes when you pass people in the halls.

    I am SO going to Hell.

  • ocvictor

    Persoanlly, I love the suit and cufflinks idea. Plus, you’ll look snazzy.

    Of course, you could always whistle surf tunes when you pass people in the halls.

    I am SO going to Hell.

  • ocvictor

    Persoanlly, I love the suit and cufflinks idea. Plus, you’ll look snazzy.

    Of course, you could always whistle surf tunes when you pass people in the halls.

    I am SO going to Hell.

  • ocvictor

    Persoanlly, I love the suit and cufflinks idea. Plus, you’ll look snazzy.

    Of course, you could always whistle surf tunes when you pass people in the halls.

    I am SO going to Hell.

  • ocvictor

    Persoanlly, I love the suit and cufflinks idea. Plus, you’ll look snazzy.

    Of course, you could always whistle surf tunes when you pass people in the halls.

    I am SO going to Hell.

  • ocvictor

    Persoanlly, I love the suit and cufflinks idea. Plus, you’ll look snazzy.

    Of course, you could always whistle surf tunes when you pass people in the halls.

    I am SO going to Hell.

  • myainsel

    Not relevant to the discussion, but my friend refers to them as “dirty hippie ponchos.”

    But yeah, it seems the point has been lost in the fashion. It kinda makes me want to ask them if they want to critique the fashion statement of the disaster photos.

  • myainsel

    Not relevant to the discussion, but my friend refers to them as “dirty hippie ponchos.”

    But yeah, it seems the point has been lost in the fashion. It kinda makes me want to ask them if they want to critique the fashion statement of the disaster photos.

  • myainsel

    Not relevant to the discussion, but my friend refers to them as “dirty hippie ponchos.”

    But yeah, it seems the point has been lost in the fashion. It kinda makes me want to ask them if they want to critique the fashion statement of the disaster photos.

  • myainsel

    Not relevant to the discussion, but my friend refers to them as “dirty hippie ponchos.”

    But yeah, it seems the point has been lost in the fashion. It kinda makes me want to ask them if they want to critique the fashion statement of the disaster photos.

  • myainsel

    Not relevant to the discussion, but my friend refers to them as “dirty hippie ponchos.”

    But yeah, it seems the point has been lost in the fashion. It kinda makes me want to ask them if they want to critique the fashion statement of the disaster photos.

  • myainsel

    Not relevant to the discussion, but my friend refers to them as “dirty hippie ponchos.”

    But yeah, it seems the point has been lost in the fashion. It kinda makes me want to ask them if they want to critique the fashion statement of the disaster photos.

  • myainsel

    Not relevant to the discussion, but my friend refers to them as “dirty hippie ponchos.”

    But yeah, it seems the point has been lost in the fashion. It kinda makes me want to ask them if they want to critique the fashion statement of the disaster photos.

  • myainsel

    Not relevant to the discussion, but my friend refers to them as “dirty hippie ponchos.”

    But yeah, it seems the point has been lost in the fashion. It kinda makes me want to ask them if they want to critique the fashion statement of the disaster photos.

  • radioactiveart

    too difficult to explain. basically, it’s one guy’s problem with the idea; unfortunately he’s a powerful guy.

    I know it’s the employees who are mostly to blame — but I still think the idea itself is weird without the buy-down component.

  • radioactiveart

    too difficult to explain. basically, it’s one guy’s problem with the idea; unfortunately he’s a powerful guy.

    I know it’s the employees who are mostly to blame — but I still think the idea itself is weird without the buy-down component.

  • radioactiveart

    too difficult to explain. basically, it’s one guy’s problem with the idea; unfortunately he’s a powerful guy.

    I know it’s the employees who are mostly to blame — but I still think the idea itself is weird without the buy-down component.

  • radioactiveart

    too difficult to explain. basically, it’s one guy’s problem with the idea; unfortunately he’s a powerful guy.

    I know it’s the employees who are mostly to blame — but I still think the idea itself is weird without the buy-down component.

  • radioactiveart

    too difficult to explain. basically, it’s one guy’s problem with the idea; unfortunately he’s a powerful guy.

    I know it’s the employees who are mostly to blame — but I still think the idea itself is weird without the buy-down component.

  • radioactiveart

    too difficult to explain. basically, it’s one guy’s problem with the idea; unfortunately he’s a powerful guy.

    I know it’s the employees who are mostly to blame — but I still think the idea itself is weird without the buy-down component.

  • radioactiveart

    too difficult to explain. basically, it’s one guy’s problem with the idea; unfortunately he’s a powerful guy.

    I know it’s the employees who are mostly to blame — but I still think the idea itself is weird without the buy-down component.

  • radioactiveart

    too difficult to explain. basically, it’s one guy’s problem with the idea; unfortunately he’s a powerful guy.

    I know it’s the employees who are mostly to blame — but I still think the idea itself is weird without the buy-down component.

  • radioactiveart

    Too beachy. I think that sends the wrong message.

    Of course, in the “i’m so going to hell” department, i did sarcastically ask if the denim idea was brought up because all that blue would look like a tsunami.

  • radioactiveart

    Too beachy. I think that sends the wrong message.

    Of course, in the “i’m so going to hell” department, i did sarcastically ask if the denim idea was brought up because all that blue would look like a tsunami.

  • radioactiveart

    Too beachy. I think that sends the wrong message.

    Of course, in the “i’m so going to hell” department, i did sarcastically ask if the denim idea was brought up because all that blue would look like a tsunami.

  • radioactiveart

    Too beachy. I think that sends the wrong message.

    Of course, in the “i’m so going to hell” department, i did sarcastically ask if the denim idea was brought up because all that blue would look like a tsunami.

  • radioactiveart

    Too beachy. I think that sends the wrong message.

    Of course, in the “i’m so going to hell” department, i did sarcastically ask if the denim idea was brought up because all that blue would look like a tsunami.

  • radioactiveart

    Too beachy. I think that sends the wrong message.

    Of course, in the “i’m so going to hell” department, i did sarcastically ask if the denim idea was brought up because all that blue would look like a tsunami.

  • radioactiveart

    Too beachy. I think that sends the wrong message.

    Of course, in the “i’m so going to hell” department, i did sarcastically ask if the denim idea was brought up because all that blue would look like a tsunami.

  • radioactiveart

    Too beachy. I think that sends the wrong message.

    Of course, in the “i’m so going to hell” department, i did sarcastically ask if the denim idea was brought up because all that blue would look like a tsunami.

  • asthecrowflies

    i agree likewise. i think the company’s in the right place, but the employees are twisting this up – the guys that are all about the low-rise, they’re not personally affected, it’s out of their sphere of direct emotional investment, &c, &c.

    why didn’t they do the buy-out for the dress-down this time? it seemed like it would have made for less of a party atmosphere.

  • asthecrowflies

    i agree likewise. i think the company’s in the right place, but the employees are twisting this up – the guys that are all about the low-rise, they’re not personally affected, it’s out of their sphere of direct emotional investment, &c, &c.

    why didn’t they do the buy-out for the dress-down this time? it seemed like it would have made for less of a party atmosphere.

  • asthecrowflies

    i agree likewise. i think the company’s in the right place, but the employees are twisting this up – the guys that are all about the low-rise, they’re not personally affected, it’s out of their sphere of direct emotional investment, &c, &c.

    why didn’t they do the buy-out for the dress-down this time? it seemed like it would have made for less of a party atmosphere.

  • asthecrowflies

    i agree likewise. i think the company’s in the right place, but the employees are twisting this up – the guys that are all about the low-rise, they’re not personally affected, it’s out of their sphere of direct emotional investment, &c, &c.

    why didn’t they do the buy-out for the dress-down this time? it seemed like it would have made for less of a party atmosphere.

  • asthecrowflies

    i agree likewise. i think the company’s in the right place, but the employees are twisting this up – the guys that are all about the low-rise, they’re not personally affected, it’s out of their sphere of direct emotional investment, &c, &c.

    why didn’t they do the buy-out for the dress-down this time? it seemed like it would have made for less of a party atmosphere.

  • asthecrowflies

    i agree likewise. i think the company’s in the right place, but the employees are twisting this up – the guys that are all about the low-rise, they’re not personally affected, it’s out of their sphere of direct emotional investment, &c, &c.

    why didn’t they do the buy-out for the dress-down this time? it seemed like it would have made for less of a party atmosphere.

  • asthecrowflies

    i agree likewise. i think the company’s in the right place, but the employees are twisting this up – the guys that are all about the low-rise, they’re not personally affected, it’s out of their sphere of direct emotional investment, &c, &c.

    why didn’t they do the buy-out for the dress-down this time? it seemed like it would have made for less of a party atmosphere.

  • asthecrowflies

    i agree likewise. i think the company’s in the right place, but the employees are twisting this up – the guys that are all about the low-rise, they’re not personally affected, it’s out of their sphere of direct emotional investment, &c, &c.

    why didn’t they do the buy-out for the dress-down this time? it seemed like it would have made for less of a party atmosphere.

  • ocvictor

    YOu could always go tackier, and break out the Hawaiian shirts.

  • ocvictor

    YOu could always go tackier, and break out the Hawaiian shirts.

  • ocvictor

    YOu could always go tackier, and break out the Hawaiian shirts.

  • ocvictor

    YOu could always go tackier, and break out the Hawaiian shirts.

  • ocvictor

    YOu could always go tackier, and break out the Hawaiian shirts.

  • ocvictor

    YOu could always go tackier, and break out the Hawaiian shirts.

  • ocvictor

    YOu could always go tackier, and break out the Hawaiian shirts.

  • ocvictor

    YOu could always go tackier, and break out the Hawaiian shirts.

  • ted_badger

    That’s hot. Dress-up for dress-down day is sexy.

    I can completely understand a) festive dress-down day and b) donation program for tsunami relief. Even at the same time. But I agree that it’s very odd and rather uncomfortable, maybe somewhat disrespectful, to co-brand ’em.

    I’m not one to get angry about such things since my own experience indicates that working an office job will inevitably lead to some degree of weirdness, out-of-touch-with-realityness, inexperience with a casual environment, and repressed sexuality. Still, I would be inclined to broach my concerns with whomever had the bright idea.

  • ted_badger

    That’s hot. Dress-up for dress-down day is sexy.

    I can completely understand a) festive dress-down day and b) donation program for tsunami relief. Even at the same time. But I agree that it’s very odd and rather uncomfortable, maybe somewhat disrespectful, to co-brand ’em.

    I’m not one to get angry about such things since my own experience indicates that working an office job will inevitably lead to some degree of weirdness, out-of-touch-with-realityness, inexperience with a casual environment, and repressed sexuality. Still, I would be inclined to broach my concerns with whomever had the bright idea.

  • ted_badger

    That’s hot. Dress-up for dress-down day is sexy.

    I can completely understand a) festive dress-down day and b) donation program for tsunami relief. Even at the same time. But I agree that it’s very odd and rather uncomfortable, maybe somewhat disrespectful, to co-brand ’em.

    I’m not one to get angry about such things since my own experience indicates that working an office job will inevitably lead to some degree of weirdness, out-of-touch-with-realityness, inexperience with a casual environment, and repressed sexuality. Still, I would be inclined to broach my concerns with whomever had the bright idea.

  • ted_badger

    That’s hot. Dress-up for dress-down day is sexy.

    I can completely understand a) festive dress-down day and b) donation program for tsunami relief. Even at the same time. But I agree that it’s very odd and rather uncomfortable, maybe somewhat disrespectful, to co-brand ’em.

    I’m not one to get angry about such things since my own experience indicates that working an office job will inevitably lead to some degree of weirdness, out-of-touch-with-realityness, inexperience with a casual environment, and repressed sexuality. Still, I would be inclined to broach my concerns with whomever had the bright idea.

  • ted_badger

    That’s hot. Dress-up for dress-down day is sexy.

    I can completely understand a) festive dress-down day and b) donation program for tsunami relief. Even at the same time. But I agree that it’s very odd and rather uncomfortable, maybe somewhat disrespectful, to co-brand ’em.

    I’m not one to get angry about such things since my own experience indicates that working an office job will inevitably lead to some degree of weirdness, out-of-touch-with-realityness, inexperience with a casual environment, and repressed sexuality. Still, I would be inclined to broach my concerns with whomever had the bright idea.

  • ted_badger

    That’s hot. Dress-up for dress-down day is sexy.

    I can completely understand a) festive dress-down day and b) donation program for tsunami relief. Even at the same time. But I agree that it’s very odd and rather uncomfortable, maybe somewhat disrespectful, to co-brand ’em.

    I’m not one to get angry about such things since my own experience indicates that working an office job will inevitably lead to some degree of weirdness, out-of-touch-with-realityness, inexperience with a casual environment, and repressed sexuality. Still, I would be inclined to broach my concerns with whomever had the bright idea.

  • ted_badger

    That’s hot. Dress-up for dress-down day is sexy.

    I can completely understand a) festive dress-down day and b) donation program for tsunami relief. Even at the same time. But I agree that it’s very odd and rather uncomfortable, maybe somewhat disrespectful, to co-brand ’em.

    I’m not one to get angry about such things since my own experience indicates that working an office job will inevitably lead to some degree of weirdness, out-of-touch-with-realityness, inexperience with a casual environment, and repressed sexuality. Still, I would be inclined to broach my concerns with whomever had the bright idea.

  • ted_badger

    That’s hot. Dress-up for dress-down day is sexy.

    I can completely understand a) festive dress-down day and b) donation program for tsunami relief. Even at the same time. But I agree that it’s very odd and rather uncomfortable, maybe somewhat disrespectful, to co-brand ’em.

    I’m not one to get angry about such things since my own experience indicates that working an office job will inevitably lead to some degree of weirdness, out-of-touch-with-realityness, inexperience with a casual environment, and repressed sexuality. Still, I would be inclined to broach my concerns with whomever had the bright idea.

  • lowhumcrush

    it’s sad that they’re looking at this occassion as anything other than what it signifies.

    if I worked with you, I’d show up in a long black gown, veil and gloves.

  • lowhumcrush

    it’s sad that they’re looking at this occassion as anything other than what it signifies.

    if I worked with you, I’d show up in a long black gown, veil and gloves.

  • lowhumcrush

    it’s sad that they’re looking at this occassion as anything other than what it signifies.

    if I worked with you, I’d show up in a long black gown, veil and gloves.

  • lowhumcrush

    it’s sad that they’re looking at this occassion as anything other than what it signifies.

    if I worked with you, I’d show up in a long black gown, veil and gloves.

  • lowhumcrush

    it’s sad that they’re looking at this occassion as anything other than what it signifies.

    if I worked with you, I’d show up in a long black gown, veil and gloves.

  • lowhumcrush

    it’s sad that they’re looking at this occassion as anything other than what it signifies.

    if I worked with you, I’d show up in a long black gown, veil and gloves.

  • lowhumcrush

    it’s sad that they’re looking at this occassion as anything other than what it signifies.

    if I worked with you, I’d show up in a long black gown, veil and gloves.

  • lowhumcrush

    it’s sad that they’re looking at this occassion as anything other than what it signifies.

    if I worked with you, I’d show up in a long black gown, veil and gloves.

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, I think you’ve nailed it there, Eric.

    And as a member of the HR department, I was one of only a few dissenting voices (thankfully not entirely alone on this one).

    My boss knows what I’m doing tomorrow and knows also that I intend to speak my mind when I’m asked about it. She’s cool with it.

    I own many cufflinks. dozens of pairs. wear them all the time.

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, I think you’ve nailed it there, Eric.

    And as a member of the HR department, I was one of only a few dissenting voices (thankfully not entirely alone on this one).

    My boss knows what I’m doing tomorrow and knows also that I intend to speak my mind when I’m asked about it. She’s cool with it.

    I own many cufflinks. dozens of pairs. wear them all the time.

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, I think you’ve nailed it there, Eric.

    And as a member of the HR department, I was one of only a few dissenting voices (thankfully not entirely alone on this one).

    My boss knows what I’m doing tomorrow and knows also that I intend to speak my mind when I’m asked about it. She’s cool with it.

    I own many cufflinks. dozens of pairs. wear them all the time.

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, I think you’ve nailed it there, Eric.

    And as a member of the HR department, I was one of only a few dissenting voices (thankfully not entirely alone on this one).

    My boss knows what I’m doing tomorrow and knows also that I intend to speak my mind when I’m asked about it. She’s cool with it.

    I own many cufflinks. dozens of pairs. wear them all the time.

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, I think you’ve nailed it there, Eric.

    And as a member of the HR department, I was one of only a few dissenting voices (thankfully not entirely alone on this one).

    My boss knows what I’m doing tomorrow and knows also that I intend to speak my mind when I’m asked about it. She’s cool with it.

    I own many cufflinks. dozens of pairs. wear them all the time.

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, I think you’ve nailed it there, Eric.

    And as a member of the HR department, I was one of only a few dissenting voices (thankfully not entirely alone on this one).

    My boss knows what I’m doing tomorrow and knows also that I intend to speak my mind when I’m asked about it. She’s cool with it.

    I own many cufflinks. dozens of pairs. wear them all the time.

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, I think you’ve nailed it there, Eric.

    And as a member of the HR department, I was one of only a few dissenting voices (thankfully not entirely alone on this one).

    My boss knows what I’m doing tomorrow and knows also that I intend to speak my mind when I’m asked about it. She’s cool with it.

    I own many cufflinks. dozens of pairs. wear them all the time.

  • radioactiveart

    Oh, I think you’ve nailed it there, Eric.

    And as a member of the HR department, I was one of only a few dissenting voices (thankfully not entirely alone on this one).

    My boss knows what I’m doing tomorrow and knows also that I intend to speak my mind when I’m asked about it. She’s cool with it.

    I own many cufflinks. dozens of pairs. wear them all the time.

  • radioactiveart

    here’s the deal: where I work there are a lot of thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed women under the age of thirty. (retail apparel, don’t you know.)

    fashion taste competition is sharklike and directly related to carrer impact here. your ability to sniff out trends and then get ahead of them without seeming too avant garde is actually a business driver. scary.

    this of course results in waves of “fashion forward” sheeplike herd behavior. three years ago, it was Kate Spade bags. this year, it’s fucking ponchos. i feel like i’m in the andes half the time.

    this issue of what’s appropriate and what’s not is on the lips of EVERYONE all the time. it’s like the fashion police on steroids.

    junior high? hell, yes. more like a remake of “heathers” with matrix-style fight scenes.

  • radioactiveart

    here’s the deal: where I work there are a lot of thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed women under the age of thirty. (retail apparel, don’t you know.)

    fashion taste competition is sharklike and directly related to carrer impact here. your ability to sniff out trends and then get ahead of them without seeming too avant garde is actually a business driver. scary.

    this of course results in waves of “fashion forward” sheeplike herd behavior. three years ago, it was Kate Spade bags. this year, it’s fucking ponchos. i feel like i’m in the andes half the time.

    this issue of what’s appropriate and what’s not is on the lips of EVERYONE all the time. it’s like the fashion police on steroids.

    junior high? hell, yes. more like a remake of “heathers” with matrix-style fight scenes.

  • radioactiveart

    here’s the deal: where I work there are a lot of thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed women under the age of thirty. (retail apparel, don’t you know.)

    fashion taste competition is sharklike and directly related to carrer impact here. your ability to sniff out trends and then get ahead of them without seeming too avant garde is actually a business driver. scary.

    this of course results in waves of “fashion forward” sheeplike herd behavior. three years ago, it was Kate Spade bags. this year, it’s fucking ponchos. i feel like i’m in the andes half the time.

    this issue of what’s appropriate and what’s not is on the lips of EVERYONE all the time. it’s like the fashion police on steroids.

    junior high? hell, yes. more like a remake of “heathers” with matrix-style fight scenes.

  • radioactiveart

    here’s the deal: where I work there are a lot of thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed women under the age of thirty. (retail apparel, don’t you know.)

    fashion taste competition is sharklike and directly related to carrer impact here. your ability to sniff out trends and then get ahead of them without seeming too avant garde is actually a business driver. scary.

    this of course results in waves of “fashion forward” sheeplike herd behavior. three years ago, it was Kate Spade bags. this year, it’s fucking ponchos. i feel like i’m in the andes half the time.

    this issue of what’s appropriate and what’s not is on the lips of EVERYONE all the time. it’s like the fashion police on steroids.

    junior high? hell, yes. more like a remake of “heathers” with matrix-style fight scenes.

  • radioactiveart

    here’s the deal: where I work there are a lot of thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed women under the age of thirty. (retail apparel, don’t you know.)

    fashion taste competition is sharklike and directly related to carrer impact here. your ability to sniff out trends and then get ahead of them without seeming too avant garde is actually a business driver. scary.

    this of course results in waves of “fashion forward” sheeplike herd behavior. three years ago, it was Kate Spade bags. this year, it’s fucking ponchos. i feel like i’m in the andes half the time.

    this issue of what’s appropriate and what’s not is on the lips of EVERYONE all the time. it’s like the fashion police on steroids.

    junior high? hell, yes. more like a remake of “heathers” with matrix-style fight scenes.

  • radioactiveart

    here’s the deal: where I work there are a lot of thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed women under the age of thirty. (retail apparel, don’t you know.)

    fashion taste competition is sharklike and directly related to carrer impact here. your ability to sniff out trends and then get ahead of them without seeming too avant garde is actually a business driver. scary.

    this of course results in waves of “fashion forward” sheeplike herd behavior. three years ago, it was Kate Spade bags. this year, it’s fucking ponchos. i feel like i’m in the andes half the time.

    this issue of what’s appropriate and what’s not is on the lips of EVERYONE all the time. it’s like the fashion police on steroids.

    junior high? hell, yes. more like a remake of “heathers” with matrix-style fight scenes.

  • radioactiveart

    here’s the deal: where I work there are a lot of thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed women under the age of thirty. (retail apparel, don’t you know.)

    fashion taste competition is sharklike and directly related to carrer impact here. your ability to sniff out trends and then get ahead of them without seeming too avant garde is actually a business driver. scary.

    this of course results in waves of “fashion forward” sheeplike herd behavior. three years ago, it was Kate Spade bags. this year, it’s fucking ponchos. i feel like i’m in the andes half the time.

    this issue of what’s appropriate and what’s not is on the lips of EVERYONE all the time. it’s like the fashion police on steroids.

    junior high? hell, yes. more like a remake of “heathers” with matrix-style fight scenes.

  • radioactiveart

    here’s the deal: where I work there are a lot of thin, conventionally pretty, incredibly well dressed women under the age of thirty. (retail apparel, don’t you know.)

    fashion taste competition is sharklike and directly related to carrer impact here. your ability to sniff out trends and then get ahead of them without seeming too avant garde is actually a business driver. scary.

    this of course results in waves of “fashion forward” sheeplike herd behavior. three years ago, it was Kate Spade bags. this year, it’s fucking ponchos. i feel like i’m in the andes half the time.

    this issue of what’s appropriate and what’s not is on the lips of EVERYONE all the time. it’s like the fashion police on steroids.

    junior high? hell, yes. more like a remake of “heathers” with matrix-style fight scenes.

  • hot_rod_poet

    Sounds to me that it’s the employees who need the perspective adjustment, not the company that made a financial donation, and then let the human resources department err really far on the side of caution with the no-peer-pressure-for-donations thing. I think I’d do the suit thing too (assuming, of course, that I was also clever enough to think of it, and actually owned cufflinks…)

  • hot_rod_poet

    Sounds to me that it’s the employees who need the perspective adjustment, not the company that made a financial donation, and then let the human resources department err really far on the side of caution with the no-peer-pressure-for-donations thing. I think I’d do the suit thing too (assuming, of course, that I was also clever enough to think of it, and actually owned cufflinks…)

  • hot_rod_poet

    Sounds to me that it’s the employees who need the perspective adjustment, not the company that made a financial donation, and then let the human resources department err really far on the side of caution with the no-peer-pressure-for-donations thing. I think I’d do the suit thing too (assuming, of course, that I was also clever enough to think of it, and actually owned cufflinks…)

  • hot_rod_poet

    Sounds to me that it’s the employees who need the perspective adjustment, not the company that made a financial donation, and then let the human resources department err really far on the side of caution with the no-peer-pressure-for-donations thing. I think I’d do the suit thing too (assuming, of course, that I was also clever enough to think of it, and actually owned cufflinks…)

  • hot_rod_poet

    Sounds to me that it’s the employees who need the perspective adjustment, not the company that made a financial donation, and then let the human resources department err really far on the side of caution with the no-peer-pressure-for-donations thing. I think I’d do the suit thing too (assuming, of course, that I was also clever enough to think of it, and actually owned cufflinks…)

  • hot_rod_poet

    Sounds to me that it’s the employees who need the perspective adjustment, not the company that made a financial donation, and then let the human resources department err really far on the side of caution with the no-peer-pressure-for-donations thing. I think I’d do the suit thing too (assuming, of course, that I was also clever enough to think of it, and actually owned cufflinks…)

  • hot_rod_poet

    Sounds to me that it’s the employees who need the perspective adjustment, not the company that made a financial donation, and then let the human resources department err really far on the side of caution with the no-peer-pressure-for-donations thing. I think I’d do the suit thing too (assuming, of course, that I was also clever enough to think of it, and actually owned cufflinks…)

  • hot_rod_poet

    Sounds to me that it’s the employees who need the perspective adjustment, not the company that made a financial donation, and then let the human resources department err really far on the side of caution with the no-peer-pressure-for-donations thing. I think I’d do the suit thing too (assuming, of course, that I was also clever enough to think of it, and actually owned cufflinks…)

  • princessbebop

    Cuff links are snazzy. I totally support that.

    I see this as (at least) a mild form of well… objectifying women? My convicitons aren’t too strong here, because I’ve realized that pretty much none of them are. But– it just seems stupid to me. The whole thing. But particularly the buzz over whether or not women will be wearing inappropriate (which usually leads to us thinking they’re ‘easy,’ and thereby inferior…) seems sooo junior high.

    The connection with the tsunami, I don’t know. Seems like that should be the focus after all. And apparently it’s not, so the point has been lost in at least some way.

    Just my confused 00.02$.

  • princessbebop

    Cuff links are snazzy. I totally support that.

    I see this as (at least) a mild form of well… objectifying women? My convicitons aren’t too strong here, because I’ve realized that pretty much none of them are. But– it just seems stupid to me. The whole thing. But particularly the buzz over whether or not women will be wearing inappropriate (which usually leads to us thinking they’re ‘easy,’ and thereby inferior…) seems sooo junior high.

    The connection with the tsunami, I don’t know. Seems like that should be the focus after all. And apparently it’s not, so the point has been lost in at least some way.

    Just my confused 00.02$.

  • princessbebop

    Cuff links are snazzy. I totally support that.

    I see this as (at least) a mild form of well… objectifying women? My convicitons aren’t too strong here, because I’ve realized that pretty much none of them are. But– it just seems stupid to me. The whole thing. But particularly the buzz over whether or not women will be wearing inappropriate (which usually leads to us thinking they’re ‘easy,’ and thereby inferior…) seems sooo junior high.

    The connection with the tsunami, I don’t know. Seems like that should be the focus after all. And apparently it’s not, so the point has been lost in at least some way.

    Just my confused 00.02$.

  • princessbebop

    Cuff links are snazzy. I totally support that.

    I see this as (at least) a mild form of well… objectifying women? My convicitons aren’t too strong here, because I’ve realized that pretty much none of them are. But– it just seems stupid to me. The whole thing. But particularly the buzz over whether or not women will be wearing inappropriate (which usually leads to us thinking they’re ‘easy,’ and thereby inferior…) seems sooo junior high.

    The connection with the tsunami, I don’t know. Seems like that should be the focus after all. And apparently it’s not, so the point has been lost in at least some way.

    Just my confused 00.02$.

  • princessbebop

    Cuff links are snazzy. I totally support that.

    I see this as (at least) a mild form of well… objectifying women? My convicitons aren’t too strong here, because I’ve realized that pretty much none of them are. But– it just seems stupid to me. The whole thing. But particularly the buzz over whether or not women will be wearing inappropriate (which usually leads to us thinking they’re ‘easy,’ and thereby inferior…) seems sooo junior high.

    The connection with the tsunami, I don’t know. Seems like that should be the focus after all. And apparently it’s not, so the point has been lost in at least some way.

    Just my confused 00.02$.

  • princessbebop

    Cuff links are snazzy. I totally support that.

    I see this as (at least) a mild form of well… objectifying women? My convicitons aren’t too strong here, because I’ve realized that pretty much none of them are. But– it just seems stupid to me. The whole thing. But particularly the buzz over whether or not women will be wearing inappropriate (which usually leads to us thinking they’re ‘easy,’ and thereby inferior…) seems sooo junior high.

    The connection with the tsunami, I don’t know. Seems like that should be the focus after all. And apparently it’s not, so the point has been lost in at least some way.

    Just my confused 00.02$.

  • princessbebop

    Cuff links are snazzy. I totally support that.

    I see this as (at least) a mild form of well… objectifying women? My convicitons aren’t too strong here, because I’ve realized that pretty much none of them are. But– it just seems stupid to me. The whole thing. But particularly the buzz over whether or not women will be wearing inappropriate (which usually leads to us thinking they’re ‘easy,’ and thereby inferior…) seems sooo junior high.

    The connection with the tsunami, I don’t know. Seems like that should be the focus after all. And apparently it’s not, so the point has been lost in at least some way.

    Just my confused 00.02$.

  • princessbebop

    Cuff links are snazzy. I totally support that.

    I see this as (at least) a mild form of well… objectifying women? My convicitons aren’t too strong here, because I’ve realized that pretty much none of them are. But– it just seems stupid to me. The whole thing. But particularly the buzz over whether or not women will be wearing inappropriate (which usually leads to us thinking they’re ‘easy,’ and thereby inferior…) seems sooo junior high.

    The connection with the tsunami, I don’t know. Seems like that should be the focus after all. And apparently it’s not, so the point has been lost in at least some way.

    Just my confused 00.02$.

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