They want a culture war?
Let’s give it to them.
Not to Middle America; that’s too easy and not truly what it’s about. In fact, if the left in this country is to survive and thrive, we’re going to have to be a little more sympathetic to these folks — or at least start treating them with less contempt.
It’s really about subverting the mechanisms that cynically use cultural divisions to divide and conquer.
I truly do not believe that the corporate behemoths give a shit about a lot of the cultural conflict zones. I do think they know that they sell easy and hit hard, and that works to keep the public distracted from real stuff like, oh, I don’t know…the world warming up into complete meltdown, the loss of critical biodiversity — you know, the stuff that is going to kill us more surely and more thoroughly than any terrorist.
If anyone can wake the world up, it’s us — because we can. We must.
I want to be clear: I don’t know how to do this. There are people here who do, though, and I want to hear from you.
We have got to start talking in coordinated language if this is going to work. We’ve got to have intelligent, multipart strategies that work from the same principles but use diverse methods to make their progress.
It’s art, it’s culture work, it’s independent media, media sabotage/co-optation, protest, political action, running for office — hell, maybe more. I daresay, more.
But it’s got to be joined in united purpose. I think that’s something to do with self-determination coupled to local and global responsibility, but there’s more.
I don’t really think I know, completely, what I’m saying here, but I know this: if I have to be here, I’ll not be swayed from, at the very least, speaking truth to power.
One more thing: I’m not all that interested in healing, unity, or cooperation today. I may be tomorrow, or the next day — but not today.
I slogged off to my job today, for instance; but the Withdrawal from anything more than what it takes to stay there until I figure out next steps has begun.
Twenty years is a long time to compromise myself.
This is war, isn’t it?
Dark Matter 
November 5th, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
Good luck to you.
November 5th, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
Good luck to you.
November 5th, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
Good luck to you.
November 5th, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
Good luck to you.
November 5th, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
Good luck to you.
November 5th, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
Good luck to you.
November 5th, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
Good luck to you.
November 5th, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
Good luck to you.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:50 am
Call me crazy, but I don’t think it’s polarized enough. I think Clinton did what he had to do when he shifted us towards the center, but then the only differences between us became cultural. Kerry lost, in part, because his rational appeals to the moderate mainstream sounded weak, and changed constantly. The other side shows no willingness to compromise; our attempts to compromise, then, look ridiculous and awkward. Let’s fight FOR something, not AGAINST something.
And don’t forget that even though we lost to the antichrist, we didn’t lose by that much.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:50 am
Call me crazy, but I don’t think it’s polarized enough. I think Clinton did what he had to do when he shifted us towards the center, but then the only differences between us became cultural. Kerry lost, in part, because his rational appeals to the moderate mainstream sounded weak, and changed constantly. The other side shows no willingness to compromise; our attempts to compromise, then, look ridiculous and awkward. Let’s fight FOR something, not AGAINST something.
And don’t forget that even though we lost to the antichrist, we didn’t lose by that much.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:50 am
Call me crazy, but I don’t think it’s polarized enough. I think Clinton did what he had to do when he shifted us towards the center, but then the only differences between us became cultural. Kerry lost, in part, because his rational appeals to the moderate mainstream sounded weak, and changed constantly. The other side shows no willingness to compromise; our attempts to compromise, then, look ridiculous and awkward. Let’s fight FOR something, not AGAINST something.
And don’t forget that even though we lost to the antichrist, we didn’t lose by that much.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:50 am
Call me crazy, but I don’t think it’s polarized enough. I think Clinton did what he had to do when he shifted us towards the center, but then the only differences between us became cultural. Kerry lost, in part, because his rational appeals to the moderate mainstream sounded weak, and changed constantly. The other side shows no willingness to compromise; our attempts to compromise, then, look ridiculous and awkward. Let’s fight FOR something, not AGAINST something.
And don’t forget that even though we lost to the antichrist, we didn’t lose by that much.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:50 am
Call me crazy, but I don’t think it’s polarized enough. I think Clinton did what he had to do when he shifted us towards the center, but then the only differences between us became cultural. Kerry lost, in part, because his rational appeals to the moderate mainstream sounded weak, and changed constantly. The other side shows no willingness to compromise; our attempts to compromise, then, look ridiculous and awkward. Let’s fight FOR something, not AGAINST something.
And don’t forget that even though we lost to the antichrist, we didn’t lose by that much.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:50 am
Call me crazy, but I don’t think it’s polarized enough. I think Clinton did what he had to do when he shifted us towards the center, but then the only differences between us became cultural. Kerry lost, in part, because his rational appeals to the moderate mainstream sounded weak, and changed constantly. The other side shows no willingness to compromise; our attempts to compromise, then, look ridiculous and awkward. Let’s fight FOR something, not AGAINST something.
And don’t forget that even though we lost to the antichrist, we didn’t lose by that much.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:50 am
Call me crazy, but I don’t think it’s polarized enough. I think Clinton did what he had to do when he shifted us towards the center, but then the only differences between us became cultural. Kerry lost, in part, because his rational appeals to the moderate mainstream sounded weak, and changed constantly. The other side shows no willingness to compromise; our attempts to compromise, then, look ridiculous and awkward. Let’s fight FOR something, not AGAINST something.
And don’t forget that even though we lost to the antichrist, we didn’t lose by that much.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:50 am
Call me crazy, but I don’t think it’s polarized enough. I think Clinton did what he had to do when he shifted us towards the center, but then the only differences between us became cultural. Kerry lost, in part, because his rational appeals to the moderate mainstream sounded weak, and changed constantly. The other side shows no willingness to compromise; our attempts to compromise, then, look ridiculous and awkward. Let’s fight FOR something, not AGAINST something.
And don’t forget that even though we lost to the antichrist, we didn’t lose by that much.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:39 am
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
I agree with you that we need to convert Republicans. I disagree that we should wait. I don’t think that the direction of the country is “set,” ever. This is not just a hopelessly fatalistic way of thinking, it’s not correct. The Democrats are fading, but we haven’t yet disappeared. Just because we’re not in power doesn’t make us down for the count.
They say that we are now officially a “center-right” country… and as far as I’m concerned, we always have been. But I don’t think we’re far Right. Call me elitist or whatever, but I think of Americans as just passionate and gullible. We remind me of one of those angry mobs on “The Simpsons,” where a few words can turn them to rioting or to tears. I think the Dems have done a poor job of harnessing that passion, and we could do it if we return to our Populist roots. People are caring less and less about how fat and greedy the upper class is (“Everyone Wants To Be A Millionaire”). We need to make them care again.
I also reiterate that breaking off into two parties is incredibly stupid. “Divided we conquer?” How would more infighting do us any good? Do you think we’d join up like the Power Twins or something? Because, if so, I don’t see how having two parties with half the people each would be better than one party with both halves of the people. Last time a party tried to break off along liberal and conservative lines was Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose party, and not only did it fail, it made the Republicans more conservative in the end.
All I know is that the longer the GOP stays in power, the more they will control the media, which controls language and the terms of the debate. If we wait fifteen years, the language liberals use today will sound completely foreign to the ears of most Americans. I know everyone’s disheartened by the loss, but I do not think we lost by much. And I do not think it would take much, except hard work and new direction, to get it back.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:39 am
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
I agree with you that we need to convert Republicans. I disagree that we should wait. I don’t think that the direction of the country is “set,” ever. This is not just a hopelessly fatalistic way of thinking, it’s not correct. The Democrats are fading, but we haven’t yet disappeared. Just because we’re not in power doesn’t make us down for the count.
They say that we are now officially a “center-right” country… and as far as I’m concerned, we always have been. But I don’t think we’re far Right. Call me elitist or whatever, but I think of Americans as just passionate and gullible. We remind me of one of those angry mobs on “The Simpsons,” where a few words can turn them to rioting or to tears. I think the Dems have done a poor job of harnessing that passion, and we could do it if we return to our Populist roots. People are caring less and less about how fat and greedy the upper class is (“Everyone Wants To Be A Millionaire”). We need to make them care again.
I also reiterate that breaking off into two parties is incredibly stupid. “Divided we conquer?” How would more infighting do us any good? Do you think we’d join up like the Power Twins or something? Because, if so, I don’t see how having two parties with half the people each would be better than one party with both halves of the people. Last time a party tried to break off along liberal and conservative lines was Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose party, and not only did it fail, it made the Republicans more conservative in the end.
All I know is that the longer the GOP stays in power, the more they will control the media, which controls language and the terms of the debate. If we wait fifteen years, the language liberals use today will sound completely foreign to the ears of most Americans. I know everyone’s disheartened by the loss, but I do not think we lost by much. And I do not think it would take much, except hard work and new direction, to get it back.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:39 am
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
I agree with you that we need to convert Republicans. I disagree that we should wait. I don’t think that the direction of the country is “set,” ever. This is not just a hopelessly fatalistic way of thinking, it’s not correct. The Democrats are fading, but we haven’t yet disappeared. Just because we’re not in power doesn’t make us down for the count.
They say that we are now officially a “center-right” country… and as far as I’m concerned, we always have been. But I don’t think we’re far Right. Call me elitist or whatever, but I think of Americans as just passionate and gullible. We remind me of one of those angry mobs on “The Simpsons,” where a few words can turn them to rioting or to tears. I think the Dems have done a poor job of harnessing that passion, and we could do it if we return to our Populist roots. People are caring less and less about how fat and greedy the upper class is (“Everyone Wants To Be A Millionaire”). We need to make them care again.
I also reiterate that breaking off into two parties is incredibly stupid. “Divided we conquer?” How would more infighting do us any good? Do you think we’d join up like the Power Twins or something? Because, if so, I don’t see how having two parties with half the people each would be better than one party with both halves of the people. Last time a party tried to break off along liberal and conservative lines was Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose party, and not only did it fail, it made the Republicans more conservative in the end.
All I know is that the longer the GOP stays in power, the more they will control the media, which controls language and the terms of the debate. If we wait fifteen years, the language liberals use today will sound completely foreign to the ears of most Americans. I know everyone’s disheartened by the loss, but I do not think we lost by much. And I do not think it would take much, except hard work and new direction, to get it back.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:39 am
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
I agree with you that we need to convert Republicans. I disagree that we should wait. I don’t think that the direction of the country is “set,” ever. This is not just a hopelessly fatalistic way of thinking, it’s not correct. The Democrats are fading, but we haven’t yet disappeared. Just because we’re not in power doesn’t make us down for the count.
They say that we are now officially a “center-right” country… and as far as I’m concerned, we always have been. But I don’t think we’re far Right. Call me elitist or whatever, but I think of Americans as just passionate and gullible. We remind me of one of those angry mobs on “The Simpsons,” where a few words can turn them to rioting or to tears. I think the Dems have done a poor job of harnessing that passion, and we could do it if we return to our Populist roots. People are caring less and less about how fat and greedy the upper class is (“Everyone Wants To Be A Millionaire”). We need to make them care again.
I also reiterate that breaking off into two parties is incredibly stupid. “Divided we conquer?” How would more infighting do us any good? Do you think we’d join up like the Power Twins or something? Because, if so, I don’t see how having two parties with half the people each would be better than one party with both halves of the people. Last time a party tried to break off along liberal and conservative lines was Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose party, and not only did it fail, it made the Republicans more conservative in the end.
All I know is that the longer the GOP stays in power, the more they will control the media, which controls language and the terms of the debate. If we wait fifteen years, the language liberals use today will sound completely foreign to the ears of most Americans. I know everyone’s disheartened by the loss, but I do not think we lost by much. And I do not think it would take much, except hard work and new direction, to get it back.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:39 am
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
I agree with you that we need to convert Republicans. I disagree that we should wait. I don’t think that the direction of the country is “set,” ever. This is not just a hopelessly fatalistic way of thinking, it’s not correct. The Democrats are fading, but we haven’t yet disappeared. Just because we’re not in power doesn’t make us down for the count.
They say that we are now officially a “center-right” country… and as far as I’m concerned, we always have been. But I don’t think we’re far Right. Call me elitist or whatever, but I think of Americans as just passionate and gullible. We remind me of one of those angry mobs on “The Simpsons,” where a few words can turn them to rioting or to tears. I think the Dems have done a poor job of harnessing that passion, and we could do it if we return to our Populist roots. People are caring less and less about how fat and greedy the upper class is (“Everyone Wants To Be A Millionaire”). We need to make them care again.
I also reiterate that breaking off into two parties is incredibly stupid. “Divided we conquer?” How would more infighting do us any good? Do you think we’d join up like the Power Twins or something? Because, if so, I don’t see how having two parties with half the people each would be better than one party with both halves of the people. Last time a party tried to break off along liberal and conservative lines was Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose party, and not only did it fail, it made the Republicans more conservative in the end.
All I know is that the longer the GOP stays in power, the more they will control the media, which controls language and the terms of the debate. If we wait fifteen years, the language liberals use today will sound completely foreign to the ears of most Americans. I know everyone’s disheartened by the loss, but I do not think we lost by much. And I do not think it would take much, except hard work and new direction, to get it back.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:39 am
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
I agree with you that we need to convert Republicans. I disagree that we should wait. I don’t think that the direction of the country is “set,” ever. This is not just a hopelessly fatalistic way of thinking, it’s not correct. The Democrats are fading, but we haven’t yet disappeared. Just because we’re not in power doesn’t make us down for the count.
They say that we are now officially a “center-right” country… and as far as I’m concerned, we always have been. But I don’t think we’re far Right. Call me elitist or whatever, but I think of Americans as just passionate and gullible. We remind me of one of those angry mobs on “The Simpsons,” where a few words can turn them to rioting or to tears. I think the Dems have done a poor job of harnessing that passion, and we could do it if we return to our Populist roots. People are caring less and less about how fat and greedy the upper class is (“Everyone Wants To Be A Millionaire”). We need to make them care again.
I also reiterate that breaking off into two parties is incredibly stupid. “Divided we conquer?” How would more infighting do us any good? Do you think we’d join up like the Power Twins or something? Because, if so, I don’t see how having two parties with half the people each would be better than one party with both halves of the people. Last time a party tried to break off along liberal and conservative lines was Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose party, and not only did it fail, it made the Republicans more conservative in the end.
All I know is that the longer the GOP stays in power, the more they will control the media, which controls language and the terms of the debate. If we wait fifteen years, the language liberals use today will sound completely foreign to the ears of most Americans. I know everyone’s disheartened by the loss, but I do not think we lost by much. And I do not think it would take much, except hard work and new direction, to get it back.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:39 am
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
I agree with you that we need to convert Republicans. I disagree that we should wait. I don’t think that the direction of the country is “set,” ever. This is not just a hopelessly fatalistic way of thinking, it’s not correct. The Democrats are fading, but we haven’t yet disappeared. Just because we’re not in power doesn’t make us down for the count.
They say that we are now officially a “center-right” country… and as far as I’m concerned, we always have been. But I don’t think we’re far Right. Call me elitist or whatever, but I think of Americans as just passionate and gullible. We remind me of one of those angry mobs on “The Simpsons,” where a few words can turn them to rioting or to tears. I think the Dems have done a poor job of harnessing that passion, and we could do it if we return to our Populist roots. People are caring less and less about how fat and greedy the upper class is (“Everyone Wants To Be A Millionaire”). We need to make them care again.
I also reiterate that breaking off into two parties is incredibly stupid. “Divided we conquer?” How would more infighting do us any good? Do you think we’d join up like the Power Twins or something? Because, if so, I don’t see how having two parties with half the people each would be better than one party with both halves of the people. Last time a party tried to break off along liberal and conservative lines was Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose party, and not only did it fail, it made the Republicans more conservative in the end.
All I know is that the longer the GOP stays in power, the more they will control the media, which controls language and the terms of the debate. If we wait fifteen years, the language liberals use today will sound completely foreign to the ears of most Americans. I know everyone’s disheartened by the loss, but I do not think we lost by much. And I do not think it would take much, except hard work and new direction, to get it back.
November 5th, 2004 at 4:39 am
Re: You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
I agree with you that we need to convert Republicans. I disagree that we should wait. I don’t think that the direction of the country is “set,” ever. This is not just a hopelessly fatalistic way of thinking, it’s not correct. The Democrats are fading, but we haven’t yet disappeared. Just because we’re not in power doesn’t make us down for the count.
They say that we are now officially a “center-right” country… and as far as I’m concerned, we always have been. But I don’t think we’re far Right. Call me elitist or whatever, but I think of Americans as just passionate and gullible. We remind me of one of those angry mobs on “The Simpsons,” where a few words can turn them to rioting or to tears. I think the Dems have done a poor job of harnessing that passion, and we could do it if we return to our Populist roots. People are caring less and less about how fat and greedy the upper class is (“Everyone Wants To Be A Millionaire”). We need to make them care again.
I also reiterate that breaking off into two parties is incredibly stupid. “Divided we conquer?” How would more infighting do us any good? Do you think we’d join up like the Power Twins or something? Because, if so, I don’t see how having two parties with half the people each would be better than one party with both halves of the people. Last time a party tried to break off along liberal and conservative lines was Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose party, and not only did it fail, it made the Republicans more conservative in the end.
All I know is that the longer the GOP stays in power, the more they will control the media, which controls language and the terms of the debate. If we wait fifteen years, the language liberals use today will sound completely foreign to the ears of most Americans. I know everyone’s disheartened by the loss, but I do not think we lost by much. And I do not think it would take much, except hard work and new direction, to get it back.
November 4th, 2004 at 2:11 pm
You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
The conservatives have won the war my friend. Bush now gets 3 to 4 appointments to the Supreme Court. The direction of the country is set for the next 25 years and that direction is FAR right.
Sure, it may be cycle 12 years of Republicans followed by 4 to 8 years of Democrats, but if the Democrats have to go mainstream moderate or essentially Republican Right, then what is the difference? We will only ever partly undo the damage being done by the Right.
We must work to ultimately destroy the right.
We should use our upcomming long period in the minority (as liberals) to subvert the Republicans. To fight them with 2 parties while they grow even fatter and greedier and the belief that they somehow represent America is forever put to rest.
Hopefully we can do it over 15 years instead of 25. Illusions of a quick fix to our situation misses who’s actually in charge – Corporat America.
November 4th, 2004 at 2:11 pm
You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
The conservatives have won the war my friend. Bush now gets 3 to 4 appointments to the Supreme Court. The direction of the country is set for the next 25 years and that direction is FAR right.
Sure, it may be cycle 12 years of Republicans followed by 4 to 8 years of Democrats, but if the Democrats have to go mainstream moderate or essentially Republican Right, then what is the difference? We will only ever partly undo the damage being done by the Right.
We must work to ultimately destroy the right.
We should use our upcomming long period in the minority (as liberals) to subvert the Republicans. To fight them with 2 parties while they grow even fatter and greedier and the belief that they somehow represent America is forever put to rest.
Hopefully we can do it over 15 years instead of 25. Illusions of a quick fix to our situation misses who’s actually in charge – Corporat America.
November 4th, 2004 at 2:11 pm
You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
The conservatives have won the war my friend. Bush now gets 3 to 4 appointments to the Supreme Court. The direction of the country is set for the next 25 years and that direction is FAR right.
Sure, it may be cycle 12 years of Republicans followed by 4 to 8 years of Democrats, but if the Democrats have to go mainstream moderate or essentially Republican Right, then what is the difference? We will only ever partly undo the damage being done by the Right.
We must work to ultimately destroy the right.
We should use our upcomming long period in the minority (as liberals) to subvert the Republicans. To fight them with 2 parties while they grow even fatter and greedier and the belief that they somehow represent America is forever put to rest.
Hopefully we can do it over 15 years instead of 25. Illusions of a quick fix to our situation misses who’s actually in charge – Corporat America.
November 4th, 2004 at 2:11 pm
You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
The conservatives have won the war my friend. Bush now gets 3 to 4 appointments to the Supreme Court. The direction of the country is set for the next 25 years and that direction is FAR right.
Sure, it may be cycle 12 years of Republicans followed by 4 to 8 years of Democrats, but if the Democrats have to go mainstream moderate or essentially Republican Right, then what is the difference? We will only ever partly undo the damage being done by the Right.
We must work to ultimately destroy the right.
We should use our upcomming long period in the minority (as liberals) to subvert the Republicans. To fight them with 2 parties while they grow even fatter and greedier and the belief that they somehow represent America is forever put to rest.
Hopefully we can do it over 15 years instead of 25. Illusions of a quick fix to our situation misses who’s actually in charge – Corporat America.
November 4th, 2004 at 2:11 pm
You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
The conservatives have won the war my friend. Bush now gets 3 to 4 appointments to the Supreme Court. The direction of the country is set for the next 25 years and that direction is FAR right.
Sure, it may be cycle 12 years of Republicans followed by 4 to 8 years of Democrats, but if the Democrats have to go mainstream moderate or essentially Republican Right, then what is the difference? We will only ever partly undo the damage being done by the Right.
We must work to ultimately destroy the right.
We should use our upcomming long period in the minority (as liberals) to subvert the Republicans. To fight them with 2 parties while they grow even fatter and greedier and the belief that they somehow represent America is forever put to rest.
Hopefully we can do it over 15 years instead of 25. Illusions of a quick fix to our situation misses who’s actually in charge – Corporat America.
November 4th, 2004 at 2:11 pm
You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
The conservatives have won the war my friend. Bush now gets 3 to 4 appointments to the Supreme Court. The direction of the country is set for the next 25 years and that direction is FAR right.
Sure, it may be cycle 12 years of Republicans followed by 4 to 8 years of Democrats, but if the Democrats have to go mainstream moderate or essentially Republican Right, then what is the difference? We will only ever partly undo the damage being done by the Right.
We must work to ultimately destroy the right.
We should use our upcomming long period in the minority (as liberals) to subvert the Republicans. To fight them with 2 parties while they grow even fatter and greedier and the belief that they somehow represent America is forever put to rest.
Hopefully we can do it over 15 years instead of 25. Illusions of a quick fix to our situation misses who’s actually in charge – Corporat America.
November 4th, 2004 at 2:11 pm
You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
The conservatives have won the war my friend. Bush now gets 3 to 4 appointments to the Supreme Court. The direction of the country is set for the next 25 years and that direction is FAR right.
Sure, it may be cycle 12 years of Republicans followed by 4 to 8 years of Democrats, but if the Democrats have to go mainstream moderate or essentially Republican Right, then what is the difference? We will only ever partly undo the damage being done by the Right.
We must work to ultimately destroy the right.
We should use our upcomming long period in the minority (as liberals) to subvert the Republicans. To fight them with 2 parties while they grow even fatter and greedier and the belief that they somehow represent America is forever put to rest.
Hopefully we can do it over 15 years instead of 25. Illusions of a quick fix to our situation misses who’s actually in charge – Corporat America.
November 4th, 2004 at 2:11 pm
You are not in the same world as the rest of the US
The conservatives have won the war my friend. Bush now gets 3 to 4 appointments to the Supreme Court. The direction of the country is set for the next 25 years and that direction is FAR right.
Sure, it may be cycle 12 years of Republicans followed by 4 to 8 years of Democrats, but if the Democrats have to go mainstream moderate or essentially Republican Right, then what is the difference? We will only ever partly undo the damage being done by the Right.
We must work to ultimately destroy the right.
We should use our upcomming long period in the minority (as liberals) to subvert the Republicans. To fight them with 2 parties while they grow even fatter and greedier and the belief that they somehow represent America is forever put to rest.
Hopefully we can do it over 15 years instead of 25. Illusions of a quick fix to our situation misses who’s actually in charge – Corporat America.
November 4th, 2004 at 1:13 pm
you said:
“This country only works when it’s polarized”
Well the country is polarized now and how does that seem to be working for us?
November 4th, 2004 at 1:13 pm
you said:
“This country only works when it’s polarized”
Well the country is polarized now and how does that seem to be working for us?
November 4th, 2004 at 1:13 pm
you said:
“This country only works when it’s polarized”
Well the country is polarized now and how does that seem to be working for us?
November 4th, 2004 at 1:13 pm
you said:
“This country only works when it’s polarized”
Well the country is polarized now and how does that seem to be working for us?
November 4th, 2004 at 1:13 pm
you said:
“This country only works when it’s polarized”
Well the country is polarized now and how does that seem to be working for us?
November 4th, 2004 at 1:13 pm
you said:
“This country only works when it’s polarized”
Well the country is polarized now and how does that seem to be working for us?
November 4th, 2004 at 1:13 pm
you said:
“This country only works when it’s polarized”
Well the country is polarized now and how does that seem to be working for us?
November 4th, 2004 at 1:13 pm
you said:
“This country only works when it’s polarized”
Well the country is polarized now and how does that seem to be working for us?
November 4th, 2004 at 12:15 pm
Amen. I think the dems HAVE to find a way to connect to the moderate voters. If you can’t do that, you can’t expect to succeed. Middle America is part of the key here, and I say that from Middle America (TN).
November 4th, 2004 at 12:15 pm
Amen. I think the dems HAVE to find a way to connect to the moderate voters. If you can’t do that, you can’t expect to succeed. Middle America is part of the key here, and I say that from Middle America (TN).
November 4th, 2004 at 12:15 pm
Amen. I think the dems HAVE to find a way to connect to the moderate voters. If you can’t do that, you can’t expect to succeed. Middle America is part of the key here, and I say that from Middle America (TN).
November 4th, 2004 at 12:15 pm
Amen. I think the dems HAVE to find a way to connect to the moderate voters. If you can’t do that, you can’t expect to succeed. Middle America is part of the key here, and I say that from Middle America (TN).
November 4th, 2004 at 12:15 pm
Amen. I think the dems HAVE to find a way to connect to the moderate voters. If you can’t do that, you can’t expect to succeed. Middle America is part of the key here, and I say that from Middle America (TN).
November 4th, 2004 at 12:15 pm
Amen. I think the dems HAVE to find a way to connect to the moderate voters. If you can’t do that, you can’t expect to succeed. Middle America is part of the key here, and I say that from Middle America (TN).
November 4th, 2004 at 12:15 pm
Amen. I think the dems HAVE to find a way to connect to the moderate voters. If you can’t do that, you can’t expect to succeed. Middle America is part of the key here, and I say that from Middle America (TN).
November 4th, 2004 at 12:15 pm
Amen. I think the dems HAVE to find a way to connect to the moderate voters. If you can’t do that, you can’t expect to succeed. Middle America is part of the key here, and I say that from Middle America (TN).
November 4th, 2004 at 11:36 am
Wait wait wait… your plan is to make America stronger by strengthening the Right? You’re saying that the way to bring liberals back into power is to split up the Democratic party and give the government to Republicans for an indefinite amount of time until eventually they become “too big” and break off into “Jesus Freaks” and “Rich Assholes”? That is insane. Isn’t this kind of “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” mentality exactly what we’re opposed to? By the time the Republicans split up, after a century of one-party rule, moderate Democrats will be an extinct species and us bleeding-hearts will be relegated to the sewers, mumbling shit in a strange surfer-inflected language and planning our bombings on the surface-dwellers.
Hey, I voted for Nader in 2000 (in Massachusetts), but only to make a point (which the party apparently didn’t get). But third parties will never work in America. Indeed, the only way they’ve ever been effective is by: a) helping the other side, and b) giving the other two parties platform positions to steal. The winner-take-all system guarantees that a third party will never last. And nationwide run-off balloting is eventually possible, but we’re reluctant to even get rid of the electoral college.
And don’t fall into the red state/blue state trap. You can write them all off as rednecks, but 49% of Arkansas voted for Kerry, as did 49% of Nevada, Iowa, and New Mexico. Red/Blue is just like W’s Black/White way of thinking. We are a Purple America. A profound burgundy in New England, a light violet in Kansas. We are only divided from our conservative neighbors next door, not necessarily from other states. So don’t write off the Democrats, just work to transform them. Let’s resurrect Williams Jennings Bryan (anti-evolutionist as he was) and the old Populists under the Democrat banner, and show them that we are the party of morality. The aftermath of Clinton proved that the right doesn’t want to compromise with us, and that we are only weakened from pleading with the moderates, so let’s convert some conservative passion into populist liberal passion. This country only works when it’s polarized.
November 4th, 2004 at 11:36 am
Wait wait wait… your plan is to make America stronger by strengthening the Right? You’re saying that the way to bring liberals back into power is to split up the Democratic party and give the government to Republicans for an indefinite amount of time until eventually they become “too big” and break off into “Jesus Freaks” and “Rich Assholes”? That is insane. Isn’t this kind of “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” mentality exactly what we’re opposed to? By the time the Republicans split up, after a century of one-party rule, moderate Democrats will be an extinct species and us bleeding-hearts will be relegated to the sewers, mumbling shit in a strange surfer-inflected language and planning our bombings on the surface-dwellers.
Hey, I voted for Nader in 2000 (in Massachusetts), but only to make a point (which the party apparently didn’t get). But third parties will never work in America. Indeed, the only way they’ve ever been effective is by: a) helping the other side, and b) giving the other two parties platform positions to steal. The winner-take-all system guarantees that a third party will never last. And nationwide run-off balloting is eventually possible, but we’re reluctant to even get rid of the electoral college.
And don’t fall into the red state/blue state trap. You can write them all off as rednecks, but 49% of Arkansas voted for Kerry, as did 49% of Nevada, Iowa, and New Mexico. Red/Blue is just like W’s Black/White way of thinking. We are a Purple America. A profound burgundy in New England, a light violet in Kansas. We are only divided from our conservative neighbors next door, not necessarily from other states. So don’t write off the Democrats, just work to transform them. Let’s resurrect Williams Jennings Bryan (anti-evolutionist as he was) and the old Populists under the Democrat banner, and show them that we are the party of morality. The aftermath of Clinton proved that the right doesn’t want to compromise with us, and that we are only weakened from pleading with the moderates, so let’s convert some conservative passion into populist liberal passion. This country only works when it’s polarized.
November 4th, 2004 at 11:36 am
Wait wait wait… your plan is to make America stronger by strengthening the Right? You’re saying that the way to bring liberals back into power is to split up the Democratic party and give the government to Republicans for an indefinite amount of time until eventually they become “too big” and break off into “Jesus Freaks” and “Rich Assholes”? That is insane. Isn’t this kind of “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” mentality exactly what we’re opposed to? By the time the Republicans split up, after a century of one-party rule, moderate Democrats will be an extinct species and us bleeding-hearts will be relegated to the sewers, mumbling shit in a strange surfer-inflected language and planning our bombings on the surface-dwellers.
Hey, I voted for Nader in 2000 (in Massachusetts), but only to make a point (which the party apparently didn’t get). But third parties will never work in America. Indeed, the only way they’ve ever been effective is by: a) helping the other side, and b) giving the other two parties platform positions to steal. The winner-take-all system guarantees that a third party will never last. And nationwide run-off balloting is eventually possible, but we’re reluctant to even get rid of the electoral college.
And don’t fall into the red state/blue state trap. You can write them all off as rednecks, but 49% of Arkansas voted for Kerry, as did 49% of Nevada, Iowa, and New Mexico. Red/Blue is just like W’s Black/White way of thinking. We are a Purple America. A profound burgundy in New England, a light violet in Kansas. We are only divided from our conservative neighbors next door, not necessarily from other states. So don’t write off the Democrats, just work to transform them. Let’s resurrect Williams Jennings Bryan (anti-evolutionist as he was) and the old Populists under the Democrat banner, and show them that we are the party of morality. The aftermath of Clinton proved that the right doesn’t want to compromise with us, and that we are only weakened from pleading with the moderates, so let’s convert some conservative passion into populist liberal passion. This country only works when it’s polarized.
November 4th, 2004 at 11:36 am
Wait wait wait… your plan is to make America stronger by strengthening the Right? You’re saying that the way to bring liberals back into power is to split up the Democratic party and give the government to Republicans for an indefinite amount of time until eventually they become “too big” and break off into “Jesus Freaks” and “Rich Assholes”? That is insane. Isn’t this kind of “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” mentality exactly what we’re opposed to? By the time the Republicans split up, after a century of one-party rule, moderate Democrats will be an extinct species and us bleeding-hearts will be relegated to the sewers, mumbling shit in a strange surfer-inflected language and planning our bombings on the surface-dwellers.
Hey, I voted for Nader in 2000 (in Massachusetts), but only to make a point (which the party apparently didn’t get). But third parties will never work in America. Indeed, the only way they’ve ever been effective is by: a) helping the other side, and b) giving the other two parties platform positions to steal. The winner-take-all system guarantees that a third party will never last. And nationwide run-off balloting is eventually possible, but we’re reluctant to even get rid of the electoral college.
And don’t fall into the red state/blue state trap. You can write them all off as rednecks, but 49% of Arkansas voted for Kerry, as did 49% of Nevada, Iowa, and New Mexico. Red/Blue is just like W’s Black/White way of thinking. We are a Purple America. A profound burgundy in New England, a light violet in Kansas. We are only divided from our conservative neighbors next door, not necessarily from other states. So don’t write off the Democrats, just work to transform them. Let’s resurrect Williams Jennings Bryan (anti-evolutionist as he was) and the old Populists under the Democrat banner, and show them that we are the party of morality. The aftermath of Clinton proved that the right doesn’t want to compromise with us, and that we are only weakened from pleading with the moderates, so let’s convert some conservative passion into populist liberal passion. This country only works when it’s polarized.
November 4th, 2004 at 11:36 am
Wait wait wait… your plan is to make America stronger by strengthening the Right? You’re saying that the way to bring liberals back into power is to split up the Democratic party and give the government to Republicans for an indefinite amount of time until eventually they become “too big” and break off into “Jesus Freaks” and “Rich Assholes”? That is insane. Isn’t this kind of “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” mentality exactly what we’re opposed to? By the time the Republicans split up, after a century of one-party rule, moderate Democrats will be an extinct species and us bleeding-hearts will be relegated to the sewers, mumbling shit in a strange surfer-inflected language and planning our bombings on the surface-dwellers.
Hey, I voted for Nader in 2000 (in Massachusetts), but only to make a point (which the party apparently didn’t get). But third parties will never work in America. Indeed, the only way they’ve ever been effective is by: a) helping the other side, and b) giving the other two parties platform positions to steal. The winner-take-all system guarantees that a third party will never last. And nationwide run-off balloting is eventually possible, but we’re reluctant to even get rid of the electoral college.
And don’t fall into the red state/blue state trap. You can write them all off as rednecks, but 49% of Arkansas voted for Kerry, as did 49% of Nevada, Iowa, and New Mexico. Red/Blue is just like W’s Black/White way of thinking. We are a Purple America. A profound burgundy in New England, a light violet in Kansas. We are only divided from our conservative neighbors next door, not necessarily from other states. So don’t write off the Democrats, just work to transform them. Let’s resurrect Williams Jennings Bryan (anti-evolutionist as he was) and the old Populists under the Democrat banner, and show them that we are the party of morality. The aftermath of Clinton proved that the right doesn’t want to compromise with us, and that we are only weakened from pleading with the moderates, so let’s convert some conservative passion into populist liberal passion. This country only works when it’s polarized.
November 4th, 2004 at 11:36 am
Wait wait wait… your plan is to make America stronger by strengthening the Right? You’re saying that the way to bring liberals back into power is to split up the Democratic party and give the government to Republicans for an indefinite amount of time until eventually they become “too big” and break off into “Jesus Freaks” and “Rich Assholes”? That is insane. Isn’t this kind of “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” mentality exactly what we’re opposed to? By the time the Republicans split up, after a century of one-party rule, moderate Democrats will be an extinct species and us bleeding-hearts will be relegated to the sewers, mumbling shit in a strange surfer-inflected language and planning our bombings on the surface-dwellers.
Hey, I voted for Nader in 2000 (in Massachusetts), but only to make a point (which the party apparently didn’t get). But third parties will never work in America. Indeed, the only way they’ve ever been effective is by: a) helping the other side, and b) giving the other two parties platform positions to steal. The winner-take-all system guarantees that a third party will never last. And nationwide run-off balloting is eventually possible, but we’re reluctant to even get rid of the electoral college.
And don’t fall into the red state/blue state trap. You can write them all off as rednecks, but 49% of Arkansas voted for Kerry, as did 49% of Nevada, Iowa, and New Mexico. Red/Blue is just like W’s Black/White way of thinking. We are a Purple America. A profound burgundy in New England, a light violet in Kansas. We are only divided from our conservative neighbors next door, not necessarily from other states. So don’t write off the Democrats, just work to transform them. Let’s resurrect Williams Jennings Bryan (anti-evolutionist as he was) and the old Populists under the Democrat banner, and show them that we are the party of morality. The aftermath of Clinton proved that the right doesn’t want to compromise with us, and that we are only weakened from pleading with the moderates, so let’s convert some conservative passion into populist liberal passion. This country only works when it’s polarized.
November 4th, 2004 at 11:36 am
Wait wait wait… your plan is to make America stronger by strengthening the Right? You’re saying that the way to bring liberals back into power is to split up the Democratic party and give the government to Republicans for an indefinite amount of time until eventually they become “too big” and break off into “Jesus Freaks” and “Rich Assholes”? That is insane. Isn’t this kind of “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” mentality exactly what we’re opposed to? By the time the Republicans split up, after a century of one-party rule, moderate Democrats will be an extinct species and us bleeding-hearts will be relegated to the sewers, mumbling shit in a strange surfer-inflected language and planning our bombings on the surface-dwellers.
Hey, I voted for Nader in 2000 (in Massachusetts), but only to make a point (which the party apparently didn’t get). But third parties will never work in America. Indeed, the only way they’ve ever been effective is by: a) helping the other side, and b) giving the other two parties platform positions to steal. The winner-take-all system guarantees that a third party will never last. And nationwide run-off balloting is eventually possible, but we’re reluctant to even get rid of the electoral college.
And don’t fall into the red state/blue state trap. You can write them all off as rednecks, but 49% of Arkansas voted for Kerry, as did 49% of Nevada, Iowa, and New Mexico. Red/Blue is just like W’s Black/White way of thinking. We are a Purple America. A profound burgundy in New England, a light violet in Kansas. We are only divided from our conservative neighbors next door, not necessarily from other states. So don’t write off the Democrats, just work to transform them. Let’s resurrect Williams Jennings Bryan (anti-evolutionist as he was) and the old Populists under the Democrat banner, and show them that we are the party of morality. The aftermath of Clinton proved that the right doesn’t want to compromise with us, and that we are only weakened from pleading with the moderates, so let’s convert some conservative passion into populist liberal passion. This country only works when it’s polarized.
November 4th, 2004 at 11:36 am
Wait wait wait… your plan is to make America stronger by strengthening the Right? You’re saying that the way to bring liberals back into power is to split up the Democratic party and give the government to Republicans for an indefinite amount of time until eventually they become “too big” and break off into “Jesus Freaks” and “Rich Assholes”? That is insane. Isn’t this kind of “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” mentality exactly what we’re opposed to? By the time the Republicans split up, after a century of one-party rule, moderate Democrats will be an extinct species and us bleeding-hearts will be relegated to the sewers, mumbling shit in a strange surfer-inflected language and planning our bombings on the surface-dwellers.
Hey, I voted for Nader in 2000 (in Massachusetts), but only to make a point (which the party apparently didn’t get). But third parties will never work in America. Indeed, the only way they’ve ever been effective is by: a) helping the other side, and b) giving the other two parties platform positions to steal. The winner-take-all system guarantees that a third party will never last. And nationwide run-off balloting is eventually possible, but we’re reluctant to even get rid of the electoral college.
And don’t fall into the red state/blue state trap. You can write them all off as rednecks, but 49% of Arkansas voted for Kerry, as did 49% of Nevada, Iowa, and New Mexico. Red/Blue is just like W’s Black/White way of thinking. We are a Purple America. A profound burgundy in New England, a light violet in Kansas. We are only divided from our conservative neighbors next door, not necessarily from other states. So don’t write off the Democrats, just work to transform them. Let’s resurrect Williams Jennings Bryan (anti-evolutionist as he was) and the old Populists under the Democrat banner, and show them that we are the party of morality. The aftermath of Clinton proved that the right doesn’t want to compromise with us, and that we are only weakened from pleading with the moderates, so let’s convert some conservative passion into populist liberal passion. This country only works when it’s polarized.
November 4th, 2004 at 10:48 am
More people also voted for George Bush than for any other President in history.
What I want, honestly, right now, today, is blood.
November 4th, 2004 at 10:48 am
More people also voted for George Bush than for any other President in history.
What I want, honestly, right now, today, is blood.
November 4th, 2004 at 10:48 am
More people also voted for George Bush than for any other President in history.
What I want, honestly, right now, today, is blood.
November 4th, 2004 at 10:48 am
More people also voted for George Bush than for any other President in history.
What I want, honestly, right now, today, is blood.
November 4th, 2004 at 10:48 am
More people also voted for George Bush than for any other President in history.
What I want, honestly, right now, today, is blood.
November 4th, 2004 at 10:48 am
More people also voted for George Bush than for any other President in history.
What I want, honestly, right now, today, is blood.
November 4th, 2004 at 10:48 am
More people also voted for George Bush than for any other President in history.
What I want, honestly, right now, today, is blood.
November 4th, 2004 at 10:48 am
More people also voted for George Bush than for any other President in history.
What I want, honestly, right now, today, is blood.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:37 am
I have to have hope that if people have the tools to find the truth on their own, and that they will vote differently.
Yes things need to change, I only know what I as an artist, and a citizen can start to do. . .
I’m not sure how to get moderate Democrats, Republicans, Greens, etc, together. . .put an ad on craigslist and start having meetings?
November 4th, 2004 at 9:37 am
I have to have hope that if people have the tools to find the truth on their own, and that they will vote differently.
Yes things need to change, I only know what I as an artist, and a citizen can start to do. . .
I’m not sure how to get moderate Democrats, Republicans, Greens, etc, together. . .put an ad on craigslist and start having meetings?
November 4th, 2004 at 9:37 am
I have to have hope that if people have the tools to find the truth on their own, and that they will vote differently.
Yes things need to change, I only know what I as an artist, and a citizen can start to do. . .
I’m not sure how to get moderate Democrats, Republicans, Greens, etc, together. . .put an ad on craigslist and start having meetings?
November 4th, 2004 at 9:37 am
I have to have hope that if people have the tools to find the truth on their own, and that they will vote differently.
Yes things need to change, I only know what I as an artist, and a citizen can start to do. . .
I’m not sure how to get moderate Democrats, Republicans, Greens, etc, together. . .put an ad on craigslist and start having meetings?
November 4th, 2004 at 9:37 am
I have to have hope that if people have the tools to find the truth on their own, and that they will vote differently.
Yes things need to change, I only know what I as an artist, and a citizen can start to do. . .
I’m not sure how to get moderate Democrats, Republicans, Greens, etc, together. . .put an ad on craigslist and start having meetings?
November 4th, 2004 at 9:37 am
I have to have hope that if people have the tools to find the truth on their own, and that they will vote differently.
Yes things need to change, I only know what I as an artist, and a citizen can start to do. . .
I’m not sure how to get moderate Democrats, Republicans, Greens, etc, together. . .put an ad on craigslist and start having meetings?
November 4th, 2004 at 9:37 am
I have to have hope that if people have the tools to find the truth on their own, and that they will vote differently.
Yes things need to change, I only know what I as an artist, and a citizen can start to do. . .
I’m not sure how to get moderate Democrats, Republicans, Greens, etc, together. . .put an ad on craigslist and start having meetings?
November 4th, 2004 at 9:37 am
I have to have hope that if people have the tools to find the truth on their own, and that they will vote differently.
Yes things need to change, I only know what I as an artist, and a citizen can start to do. . .
I’m not sure how to get moderate Democrats, Republicans, Greens, etc, together. . .put an ad on craigslist and start having meetings?
November 4th, 2004 at 9:20 am
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
Then the moderates need to force the left to split off. Let the far left do the nasty work and keep the far right in check with the force of dirty tricks of divisiveness.
Right now the Far Right is using the fear of the far left to keep moderates from power. I don’t see that strategy changing.
Working to split moderate Repubublicans from their Radical Right members through the goals you state is part of the process and is good to do, but doing so alone won’t solve this problem.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:20 am
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
Then the moderates need to force the left to split off. Let the far left do the nasty work and keep the far right in check with the force of dirty tricks of divisiveness.
Right now the Far Right is using the fear of the far left to keep moderates from power. I don’t see that strategy changing.
Working to split moderate Repubublicans from their Radical Right members through the goals you state is part of the process and is good to do, but doing so alone won’t solve this problem.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:20 am
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
Then the moderates need to force the left to split off. Let the far left do the nasty work and keep the far right in check with the force of dirty tricks of divisiveness.
Right now the Far Right is using the fear of the far left to keep moderates from power. I don’t see that strategy changing.
Working to split moderate Repubublicans from their Radical Right members through the goals you state is part of the process and is good to do, but doing so alone won’t solve this problem.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:20 am
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
Then the moderates need to force the left to split off. Let the far left do the nasty work and keep the far right in check with the force of dirty tricks of divisiveness.
Right now the Far Right is using the fear of the far left to keep moderates from power. I don’t see that strategy changing.
Working to split moderate Repubublicans from their Radical Right members through the goals you state is part of the process and is good to do, but doing so alone won’t solve this problem.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:20 am
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
Then the moderates need to force the left to split off. Let the far left do the nasty work and keep the far right in check with the force of dirty tricks of divisiveness.
Right now the Far Right is using the fear of the far left to keep moderates from power. I don’t see that strategy changing.
Working to split moderate Repubublicans from their Radical Right members through the goals you state is part of the process and is good to do, but doing so alone won’t solve this problem.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:20 am
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
Then the moderates need to force the left to split off. Let the far left do the nasty work and keep the far right in check with the force of dirty tricks of divisiveness.
Right now the Far Right is using the fear of the far left to keep moderates from power. I don’t see that strategy changing.
Working to split moderate Repubublicans from their Radical Right members through the goals you state is part of the process and is good to do, but doing so alone won’t solve this problem.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:20 am
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
Then the moderates need to force the left to split off. Let the far left do the nasty work and keep the far right in check with the force of dirty tricks of divisiveness.
Right now the Far Right is using the fear of the far left to keep moderates from power. I don’t see that strategy changing.
Working to split moderate Repubublicans from their Radical Right members through the goals you state is part of the process and is good to do, but doing so alone won’t solve this problem.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:20 am
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
Then the moderates need to force the left to split off. Let the far left do the nasty work and keep the far right in check with the force of dirty tricks of divisiveness.
Right now the Far Right is using the fear of the far left to keep moderates from power. I don’t see that strategy changing.
Working to split moderate Repubublicans from their Radical Right members through the goals you state is part of the process and is good to do, but doing so alone won’t solve this problem.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:13 am
The problem is division. The Religious Right is being played off of the Hedonistic Left. These minor issues that are polarizing to both sides take precident and the major issues that require difficult thought are ignored.
It’s art, it’s culture work, it’s independent media, media sabotage/co-optation, protest, political action, running for office — hell, maybe more.
I daresay, more than this needs to be done. Rural America (Religious Right) has no access to the world we live in. The coastal regions are a seperate country.
We must help them to destroy themselves. Absolute power corrupts, does it not? If we weaken the Democratic Party in the process of developing a political party and political culture that mirrors OUR values instead of the Corporate Democratic Party’s, then the Republican party will gain to the point that it collapses and breaks into two less powerful groups.
As we are working on our own party (Green?) we will also be taking care of ourselves by electing local officials that represent our interests.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:13 am
The problem is division. The Religious Right is being played off of the Hedonistic Left. These minor issues that are polarizing to both sides take precident and the major issues that require difficult thought are ignored.
It’s art, it’s culture work, it’s independent media, media sabotage/co-optation, protest, political action, running for office — hell, maybe more.
I daresay, more than this needs to be done. Rural America (Religious Right) has no access to the world we live in. The coastal regions are a seperate country.
We must help them to destroy themselves. Absolute power corrupts, does it not? If we weaken the Democratic Party in the process of developing a political party and political culture that mirrors OUR values instead of the Corporate Democratic Party’s, then the Republican party will gain to the point that it collapses and breaks into two less powerful groups.
As we are working on our own party (Green?) we will also be taking care of ourselves by electing local officials that represent our interests.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:13 am
The problem is division. The Religious Right is being played off of the Hedonistic Left. These minor issues that are polarizing to both sides take precident and the major issues that require difficult thought are ignored.
It’s art, it’s culture work, it’s independent media, media sabotage/co-optation, protest, political action, running for office — hell, maybe more.
I daresay, more than this needs to be done. Rural America (Religious Right) has no access to the world we live in. The coastal regions are a seperate country.
We must help them to destroy themselves. Absolute power corrupts, does it not? If we weaken the Democratic Party in the process of developing a political party and political culture that mirrors OUR values instead of the Corporate Democratic Party’s, then the Republican party will gain to the point that it collapses and breaks into two less powerful groups.
As we are working on our own party (Green?) we will also be taking care of ourselves by electing local officials that represent our interests.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:13 am
The problem is division. The Religious Right is being played off of the Hedonistic Left. These minor issues that are polarizing to both sides take precident and the major issues that require difficult thought are ignored.
It’s art, it’s culture work, it’s independent media, media sabotage/co-optation, protest, political action, running for office — hell, maybe more.
I daresay, more than this needs to be done. Rural America (Religious Right) has no access to the world we live in. The coastal regions are a seperate country.
We must help them to destroy themselves. Absolute power corrupts, does it not? If we weaken the Democratic Party in the process of developing a political party and political culture that mirrors OUR values instead of the Corporate Democratic Party’s, then the Republican party will gain to the point that it collapses and breaks into two less powerful groups.
As we are working on our own party (Green?) we will also be taking care of ourselves by electing local officials that represent our interests.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:13 am
The problem is division. The Religious Right is being played off of the Hedonistic Left. These minor issues that are polarizing to both sides take precident and the major issues that require difficult thought are ignored.
It’s art, it’s culture work, it’s independent media, media sabotage/co-optation, protest, political action, running for office — hell, maybe more.
I daresay, more than this needs to be done. Rural America (Religious Right) has no access to the world we live in. The coastal regions are a seperate country.
We must help them to destroy themselves. Absolute power corrupts, does it not? If we weaken the Democratic Party in the process of developing a political party and political culture that mirrors OUR values instead of the Corporate Democratic Party’s, then the Republican party will gain to the point that it collapses and breaks into two less powerful groups.
As we are working on our own party (Green?) we will also be taking care of ourselves by electing local officials that represent our interests.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:13 am
The problem is division. The Religious Right is being played off of the Hedonistic Left. These minor issues that are polarizing to both sides take precident and the major issues that require difficult thought are ignored.
It’s art, it’s culture work, it’s independent media, media sabotage/co-optation, protest, political action, running for office — hell, maybe more.
I daresay, more than this needs to be done. Rural America (Religious Right) has no access to the world we live in. The coastal regions are a seperate country.
We must help them to destroy themselves. Absolute power corrupts, does it not? If we weaken the Democratic Party in the process of developing a political party and political culture that mirrors OUR values instead of the Corporate Democratic Party’s, then the Republican party will gain to the point that it collapses and breaks into two less powerful groups.
As we are working on our own party (Green?) we will also be taking care of ourselves by electing local officials that represent our interests.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:13 am
The problem is division. The Religious Right is being played off of the Hedonistic Left. These minor issues that are polarizing to both sides take precident and the major issues that require difficult thought are ignored.
It’s art, it’s culture work, it’s independent media, media sabotage/co-optation, protest, political action, running for office — hell, maybe more.
I daresay, more than this needs to be done. Rural America (Religious Right) has no access to the world we live in. The coastal regions are a seperate country.
We must help them to destroy themselves. Absolute power corrupts, does it not? If we weaken the Democratic Party in the process of developing a political party and political culture that mirrors OUR values instead of the Corporate Democratic Party’s, then the Republican party will gain to the point that it collapses and breaks into two less powerful groups.
As we are working on our own party (Green?) we will also be taking care of ourselves by electing local officials that represent our interests.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:13 am
The problem is division. The Religious Right is being played off of the Hedonistic Left. These minor issues that are polarizing to both sides take precident and the major issues that require difficult thought are ignored.
It’s art, it’s culture work, it’s independent media, media sabotage/co-optation, protest, political action, running for office — hell, maybe more.
I daresay, more than this needs to be done. Rural America (Religious Right) has no access to the world we live in. The coastal regions are a seperate country.
We must help them to destroy themselves. Absolute power corrupts, does it not? If we weaken the Democratic Party in the process of developing a political party and political culture that mirrors OUR values instead of the Corporate Democratic Party’s, then the Republican party will gain to the point that it collapses and breaks into two less powerful groups.
As we are working on our own party (Green?) we will also be taking care of ourselves by electing local officials that represent our interests.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:08 am
More people voted against Gerge W. Bush than any other president in history. . .We are not that alone.
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
what we as artist can do, is to write things that will incite people to go out and get their own information, instead of trusting everything they hear on the news and talk radio shows.
We can write things that will incite some integrity back to journalism.
We can work to reinstate the FCC regualtions so that any monopoly can not use its airwaves to shove it’s political viewpoints down people’s throats.
And. last but not least, we need the same electronic voting systems that other countries use, they should have a paper trail, a checks and balances system.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:08 am
More people voted against Gerge W. Bush than any other president in history. . .We are not that alone.
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
what we as artist can do, is to write things that will incite people to go out and get their own information, instead of trusting everything they hear on the news and talk radio shows.
We can write things that will incite some integrity back to journalism.
We can work to reinstate the FCC regualtions so that any monopoly can not use its airwaves to shove it’s political viewpoints down people’s throats.
And. last but not least, we need the same electronic voting systems that other countries use, they should have a paper trail, a checks and balances system.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:08 am
More people voted against Gerge W. Bush than any other president in history. . .We are not that alone.
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
what we as artist can do, is to write things that will incite people to go out and get their own information, instead of trusting everything they hear on the news and talk radio shows.
We can write things that will incite some integrity back to journalism.
We can work to reinstate the FCC regualtions so that any monopoly can not use its airwaves to shove it’s political viewpoints down people’s throats.
And. last but not least, we need the same electronic voting systems that other countries use, they should have a paper trail, a checks and balances system.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:08 am
More people voted against Gerge W. Bush than any other president in history. . .We are not that alone.
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
what we as artist can do, is to write things that will incite people to go out and get their own information, instead of trusting everything they hear on the news and talk radio shows.
We can write things that will incite some integrity back to journalism.
We can work to reinstate the FCC regualtions so that any monopoly can not use its airwaves to shove it’s political viewpoints down people’s throats.
And. last but not least, we need the same electronic voting systems that other countries use, they should have a paper trail, a checks and balances system.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:08 am
More people voted against Gerge W. Bush than any other president in history. . .We are not that alone.
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
what we as artist can do, is to write things that will incite people to go out and get their own information, instead of trusting everything they hear on the news and talk radio shows.
We can write things that will incite some integrity back to journalism.
We can work to reinstate the FCC regualtions so that any monopoly can not use its airwaves to shove it’s political viewpoints down people’s throats.
And. last but not least, we need the same electronic voting systems that other countries use, they should have a paper trail, a checks and balances system.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:08 am
More people voted against Gerge W. Bush than any other president in history. . .We are not that alone.
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
what we as artist can do, is to write things that will incite people to go out and get their own information, instead of trusting everything they hear on the news and talk radio shows.
We can write things that will incite some integrity back to journalism.
We can work to reinstate the FCC regualtions so that any monopoly can not use its airwaves to shove it’s political viewpoints down people’s throats.
And. last but not least, we need the same electronic voting systems that other countries use, they should have a paper trail, a checks and balances system.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:08 am
More people voted against Gerge W. Bush than any other president in history. . .We are not that alone.
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
what we as artist can do, is to write things that will incite people to go out and get their own information, instead of trusting everything they hear on the news and talk radio shows.
We can write things that will incite some integrity back to journalism.
We can work to reinstate the FCC regualtions so that any monopoly can not use its airwaves to shove it’s political viewpoints down people’s throats.
And. last but not least, we need the same electronic voting systems that other countries use, they should have a paper trail, a checks and balances system.
November 4th, 2004 at 9:08 am
More people voted against Gerge W. Bush than any other president in history. . .We are not that alone.
And The problem is, that I’m not left. . .I’m a centrist, a moderate. I just didn’t want Bush re elected, but I will never fight as dirty as Karl Rove, and I’m guessing that the Democrats, the New Democrats, or the progressives won’t either.
what we as artist can do, is to write things that will incite people to go out and get their own information, instead of trusting everything they hear on the news and talk radio shows.
We can write things that will incite some integrity back to journalism.
We can work to reinstate the FCC regualtions so that any monopoly can not use its airwaves to shove it’s political viewpoints down people’s throats.
And. last but not least, we need the same electronic voting systems that other countries use, they should have a paper trail, a checks and balances system.
November 4th, 2004 at 7:23 am
Re: yep
“Culture where they run your life”… HA!
I thought similarly of the “Ownership society” that dubya talked about, in what, the 1st debate? More like the “you’re on your own society”.
November 4th, 2004 at 7:23 am
Re: yep
“Culture where they run your life”… HA!
I thought similarly of the “Ownership society” that dubya talked about, in what, the 1st debate? More like the “you’re on your own society”.
November 4th, 2004 at 7:23 am
Re: yep
“Culture where they run your life”… HA!
I thought similarly of the “Ownership society” that dubya talked about, in what, the 1st debate? More like the “you’re on your own society”.
November 4th, 2004 at 7:23 am
Re: yep
“Culture where they run your life”… HA!
I thought similarly of the “Ownership society” that dubya talked about, in what, the 1st debate? More like the “you’re on your own society”.
November 4th, 2004 at 7:23 am
Re: yep
“Culture where they run your life”… HA!
I thought similarly of the “Ownership society” that dubya talked about, in what, the 1st debate? More like the “you’re on your own society”.
November 4th, 2004 at 7:23 am
Re: yep
“Culture where they run your life”… HA!
I thought similarly of the “Ownership society” that dubya talked about, in what, the 1st debate? More like the “you’re on your own society”.
November 4th, 2004 at 7:23 am
Re: yep
“Culture where they run your life”… HA!
I thought similarly of the “Ownership society” that dubya talked about, in what, the 1st debate? More like the “you’re on your own society”.
November 4th, 2004 at 7:23 am
Re: yep
“Culture where they run your life”… HA!
I thought similarly of the “Ownership society” that dubya talked about, in what, the 1st debate? More like the “you’re on your own society”.
November 4th, 2004 at 7:18 am
Re: yep
yes, yes, and here’s one:
catch phrases (a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle) are incredibly powerful. they can get traction. if we get good ones and message disciplne (and this was one of bush’s strengths), with democratic rhetoric–not rhetoric that is “acceptable” but rhetoric that fucking RINGS TRUE–adapted to, say, my uncle, we’ll have something.
r.e. “culture of life”, i propose this phrase:
“When they talk about a ‘culture of life,’ they mean a culture where they get to run YOUR life.”
November 4th, 2004 at 7:18 am
Re: yep
yes, yes, and here’s one:
catch phrases (a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle) are incredibly powerful. they can get traction. if we get good ones and message disciplne (and this was one of bush’s strengths), with democratic rhetoric–not rhetoric that is “acceptable” but rhetoric that fucking RINGS TRUE–adapted to, say, my uncle, we’ll have something.
r.e. “culture of life”, i propose this phrase:
“When they talk about a ‘culture of life,’ they mean a culture where they get to run YOUR life.”
November 4th, 2004 at 7:18 am
Re: yep
yes, yes, and here’s one:
catch phrases (a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle) are incredibly powerful. they can get traction. if we get good ones and message disciplne (and this was one of bush’s strengths), with democratic rhetoric–not rhetoric that is “acceptable” but rhetoric that fucking RINGS TRUE–adapted to, say, my uncle, we’ll have something.
r.e. “culture of life”, i propose this phrase:
“When they talk about a ‘culture of life,’ they mean a culture where they get to run YOUR life.”
November 4th, 2004 at 7:18 am
Re: yep
yes, yes, and here’s one:
catch phrases (a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle) are incredibly powerful. they can get traction. if we get good ones and message disciplne (and this was one of bush’s strengths), with democratic rhetoric–not rhetoric that is “acceptable” but rhetoric that fucking RINGS TRUE–adapted to, say, my uncle, we’ll have something.
r.e. “culture of life”, i propose this phrase:
“When they talk about a ‘culture of life,’ they mean a culture where they get to run YOUR life.”
November 4th, 2004 at 7:18 am
Re: yep
yes, yes, and here’s one:
catch phrases (a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle) are incredibly powerful. they can get traction. if we get good ones and message disciplne (and this was one of bush’s strengths), with democratic rhetoric–not rhetoric that is “acceptable” but rhetoric that fucking RINGS TRUE–adapted to, say, my uncle, we’ll have something.
r.e. “culture of life”, i propose this phrase:
“When they talk about a ‘culture of life,’ they mean a culture where they get to run YOUR life.”
November 4th, 2004 at 7:18 am
Re: yep
yes, yes, and here’s one:
catch phrases (a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle) are incredibly powerful. they can get traction. if we get good ones and message disciplne (and this was one of bush’s strengths), with democratic rhetoric–not rhetoric that is “acceptable” but rhetoric that fucking RINGS TRUE–adapted to, say, my uncle, we’ll have something.
r.e. “culture of life”, i propose this phrase:
“When they talk about a ‘culture of life,’ they mean a culture where they get to run YOUR life.”
November 4th, 2004 at 7:18 am
Re: yep
yes, yes, and here’s one:
catch phrases (a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle) are incredibly powerful. they can get traction. if we get good ones and message disciplne (and this was one of bush’s strengths), with democratic rhetoric–not rhetoric that is “acceptable” but rhetoric that fucking RINGS TRUE–adapted to, say, my uncle, we’ll have something.
r.e. “culture of life”, i propose this phrase:
“When they talk about a ‘culture of life,’ they mean a culture where they get to run YOUR life.”
November 4th, 2004 at 7:18 am
Re: yep
yes, yes, and here’s one:
catch phrases (a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle) are incredibly powerful. they can get traction. if we get good ones and message disciplne (and this was one of bush’s strengths), with democratic rhetoric–not rhetoric that is “acceptable” but rhetoric that fucking RINGS TRUE–adapted to, say, my uncle, we’ll have something.
r.e. “culture of life”, i propose this phrase:
“When they talk about a ‘culture of life,’ they mean a culture where they get to run YOUR life.”
November 4th, 2004 at 6:12 am
Re: yep
The language is very important, I agree. And we are singularly poised to raid the language and talk our own talk — tell our stories in our language, rather than the words put into our mouths by the conservative right and the conventional wisdom that seems to drive so much of our political, social and cultural discourse.
Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice. Life is tangible, real… how can you not be pro-life? Choice is ephemeral…something you can’t really define in terms that make it inevitable, as inevitable as being pro-life.
Just an example.
I heard some political wanker talking about how the democrats weren’t angry enough, weren’t able to energize people with passion. I wanted to reach through the radio and strangle the man. I satisfied myself by screaming, “HOWARD DEAN, YOU ASSHAT! WHAT WAS DONE TO DEAN FOR HAVING PASSION?”
Democrats need to stop consuming themselves — that was the most frightening thing I saw on the liberal blogs — all the self-directed hatred and anger.
November 4th, 2004 at 6:12 am
Re: yep
The language is very important, I agree. And we are singularly poised to raid the language and talk our own talk — tell our stories in our language, rather than the words put into our mouths by the conservative right and the conventional wisdom that seems to drive so much of our political, social and cultural discourse.
Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice. Life is tangible, real… how can you not be pro-life? Choice is ephemeral…something you can’t really define in terms that make it inevitable, as inevitable as being pro-life.
Just an example.
I heard some political wanker talking about how the democrats weren’t angry enough, weren’t able to energize people with passion. I wanted to reach through the radio and strangle the man. I satisfied myself by screaming, “HOWARD DEAN, YOU ASSHAT! WHAT WAS DONE TO DEAN FOR HAVING PASSION?”
Democrats need to stop consuming themselves — that was the most frightening thing I saw on the liberal blogs — all the self-directed hatred and anger.
November 4th, 2004 at 6:12 am
Re: yep
The language is very important, I agree. And we are singularly poised to raid the language and talk our own talk — tell our stories in our language, rather than the words put into our mouths by the conservative right and the conventional wisdom that seems to drive so much of our political, social and cultural discourse.
Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice. Life is tangible, real… how can you not be pro-life? Choice is ephemeral…something you can’t really define in terms that make it inevitable, as inevitable as being pro-life.
Just an example.
I heard some political wanker talking about how the democrats weren’t angry enough, weren’t able to energize people with passion. I wanted to reach through the radio and strangle the man. I satisfied myself by screaming, “HOWARD DEAN, YOU ASSHAT! WHAT WAS DONE TO DEAN FOR HAVING PASSION?”
Democrats need to stop consuming themselves — that was the most frightening thing I saw on the liberal blogs — all the self-directed hatred and anger.
November 4th, 2004 at 6:12 am
Re: yep
The language is very important, I agree. And we are singularly poised to raid the language and talk our own talk — tell our stories in our language, rather than the words put into our mouths by the conservative right and the conventional wisdom that seems to drive so much of our political, social and cultural discourse.
Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice. Life is tangible, real… how can you not be pro-life? Choice is ephemeral…something you can’t really define in terms that make it inevitable, as inevitable as being pro-life.
Just an example.
I heard some political wanker talking about how the democrats weren’t angry enough, weren’t able to energize people with passion. I wanted to reach through the radio and strangle the man. I satisfied myself by screaming, “HOWARD DEAN, YOU ASSHAT! WHAT WAS DONE TO DEAN FOR HAVING PASSION?”
Democrats need to stop consuming themselves — that was the most frightening thing I saw on the liberal blogs — all the self-directed hatred and anger.
November 4th, 2004 at 6:12 am
Re: yep
The language is very important, I agree. And we are singularly poised to raid the language and talk our own talk — tell our stories in our language, rather than the words put into our mouths by the conservative right and the conventional wisdom that seems to drive so much of our political, social and cultural discourse.
Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice. Life is tangible, real… how can you not be pro-life? Choice is ephemeral…something you can’t really define in terms that make it inevitable, as inevitable as being pro-life.
Just an example.
I heard some political wanker talking about how the democrats weren’t angry enough, weren’t able to energize people with passion. I wanted to reach through the radio and strangle the man. I satisfied myself by screaming, “HOWARD DEAN, YOU ASSHAT! WHAT WAS DONE TO DEAN FOR HAVING PASSION?”
Democrats need to stop consuming themselves — that was the most frightening thing I saw on the liberal blogs — all the self-directed hatred and anger.
November 4th, 2004 at 6:12 am
Re: yep
The language is very important, I agree. And we are singularly poised to raid the language and talk our own talk — tell our stories in our language, rather than the words put into our mouths by the conservative right and the conventional wisdom that seems to drive so much of our political, social and cultural discourse.
Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice. Life is tangible, real… how can you not be pro-life? Choice is ephemeral…something you can’t really define in terms that make it inevitable, as inevitable as being pro-life.
Just an example.
I heard some political wanker talking about how the democrats weren’t angry enough, weren’t able to energize people with passion. I wanted to reach through the radio and strangle the man. I satisfied myself by screaming, “HOWARD DEAN, YOU ASSHAT! WHAT WAS DONE TO DEAN FOR HAVING PASSION?”
Democrats need to stop consuming themselves — that was the most frightening thing I saw on the liberal blogs — all the self-directed hatred and anger.
November 4th, 2004 at 6:12 am
Re: yep
The language is very important, I agree. And we are singularly poised to raid the language and talk our own talk — tell our stories in our language, rather than the words put into our mouths by the conservative right and the conventional wisdom that seems to drive so much of our political, social and cultural discourse.
Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice. Life is tangible, real… how can you not be pro-life? Choice is ephemeral…something you can’t really define in terms that make it inevitable, as inevitable as being pro-life.
Just an example.
I heard some political wanker talking about how the democrats weren’t angry enough, weren’t able to energize people with passion. I wanted to reach through the radio and strangle the man. I satisfied myself by screaming, “HOWARD DEAN, YOU ASSHAT! WHAT WAS DONE TO DEAN FOR HAVING PASSION?”
Democrats need to stop consuming themselves — that was the most frightening thing I saw on the liberal blogs — all the self-directed hatred and anger.
November 4th, 2004 at 6:12 am
Re: yep
The language is very important, I agree. And we are singularly poised to raid the language and talk our own talk — tell our stories in our language, rather than the words put into our mouths by the conservative right and the conventional wisdom that seems to drive so much of our political, social and cultural discourse.
Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice. Life is tangible, real… how can you not be pro-life? Choice is ephemeral…something you can’t really define in terms that make it inevitable, as inevitable as being pro-life.
Just an example.
I heard some political wanker talking about how the democrats weren’t angry enough, weren’t able to energize people with passion. I wanted to reach through the radio and strangle the man. I satisfied myself by screaming, “HOWARD DEAN, YOU ASSHAT! WHAT WAS DONE TO DEAN FOR HAVING PASSION?”
Democrats need to stop consuming themselves — that was the most frightening thing I saw on the liberal blogs — all the self-directed hatred and anger.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:02 pm
Not to Middle America; that’s too easy and not truly what it’s about. In fact, if the left in this country is to survive and thrive, we’re going to have to be a little more sympathetic to these folks — or at least start treating them with less contempt.
Intersting you should mention this.
Ever since my gramma’s funeral I’ve been thinking about this – since before actually, but the funeral brought it into sharp relief.
I am the child of working class parents. Most, if not all, of my relatives are working class. They’re not, for the most part, zealots or far Right extremists. In fact it’s likely that they voted for Kerry because on both sides of my family you don’t register Democrat, you’re born a Democrat. You vote Democrat no matter what.
However they often have expressed conservative attitudes (anti-Mexican, even though we’re technically Mexican-American, anti-gay, anti-abortion). They are Middle America in Northern New Mexico. After hearing one of my poems, one of my aunts joked that we’re all a bunch of Mexican hillbillys. I couldn’t have said it better my damn poetic myself.
I am not working class per se. I write for a newspaper and teach poetry. I’m pretty white collar. My dad was a lineman for an electrical co-op and my mom, well she was an administraitve assistant – which sounds white collar but really isn’t. They worked paycheck to paycheck. I have that in common with them.
I’ve struggled with the thought that I shouldn’t be working in a newsroom. I should be doing the physical work my dad and grandfathers did (my grampas were a) owner of a junkyard/mechanic b) worked for a natural gas company as a journeyman. My grammas a) ran a daycare and was a housewife and b) was a secretary.
I’ve struggled with the idea that I am working class in a white collar world. I’m a working class kid who transcended that and got my college degree. I somehow ended up with liberal ideals through no encouragement from my family (excepting maybe, my great uncle the professor of political science).
My family is often homophobic, bigoted (yes Hispanics can be bigots – even to other Hispanics) and illiberal. But they are my family. I don’t forgive and of those attitudes but understand them and understand where they come from.
I sometimes find myself around them and feel contempt. But I also feel pride because they represent where I’m from. You can take the boy out of the small town, but you can’t tale the small town out the boy.
I think simple understanding would go a long way in the Left reconnect with Middle America. Middle America is not Mayberry. Middle America isn’t backwards or outdated. I understand why Middle America and the “Left” hve contempt for each other. But underneath it all, I see more similarities than differences.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:02 pm
Not to Middle America; that’s too easy and not truly what it’s about. In fact, if the left in this country is to survive and thrive, we’re going to have to be a little more sympathetic to these folks — or at least start treating them with less contempt.
Intersting you should mention this.
Ever since my gramma’s funeral I’ve been thinking about this – since before actually, but the funeral brought it into sharp relief.
I am the child of working class parents. Most, if not all, of my relatives are working class. They’re not, for the most part, zealots or far Right extremists. In fact it’s likely that they voted for Kerry because on both sides of my family you don’t register Democrat, you’re born a Democrat. You vote Democrat no matter what.
However they often have expressed conservative attitudes (anti-Mexican, even though we’re technically Mexican-American, anti-gay, anti-abortion). They are Middle America in Northern New Mexico. After hearing one of my poems, one of my aunts joked that we’re all a bunch of Mexican hillbillys. I couldn’t have said it better my damn poetic myself.
I am not working class per se. I write for a newspaper and teach poetry. I’m pretty white collar. My dad was a lineman for an electrical co-op and my mom, well she was an administraitve assistant – which sounds white collar but really isn’t. They worked paycheck to paycheck. I have that in common with them.
I’ve struggled with the thought that I shouldn’t be working in a newsroom. I should be doing the physical work my dad and grandfathers did (my grampas were a) owner of a junkyard/mechanic b) worked for a natural gas company as a journeyman. My grammas a) ran a daycare and was a housewife and b) was a secretary.
I’ve struggled with the idea that I am working class in a white collar world. I’m a working class kid who transcended that and got my college degree. I somehow ended up with liberal ideals through no encouragement from my family (excepting maybe, my great uncle the professor of political science).
My family is often homophobic, bigoted (yes Hispanics can be bigots – even to other Hispanics) and illiberal. But they are my family. I don’t forgive and of those attitudes but understand them and understand where they come from.
I sometimes find myself around them and feel contempt. But I also feel pride because they represent where I’m from. You can take the boy out of the small town, but you can’t tale the small town out the boy.
I think simple understanding would go a long way in the Left reconnect with Middle America. Middle America is not Mayberry. Middle America isn’t backwards or outdated. I understand why Middle America and the “Left” hve contempt for each other. But underneath it all, I see more similarities than differences.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:02 pm
Not to Middle America; that’s too easy and not truly what it’s about. In fact, if the left in this country is to survive and thrive, we’re going to have to be a little more sympathetic to these folks — or at least start treating them with less contempt.
Intersting you should mention this.
Ever since my gramma’s funeral I’ve been thinking about this – since before actually, but the funeral brought it into sharp relief.
I am the child of working class parents. Most, if not all, of my relatives are working class. They’re not, for the most part, zealots or far Right extremists. In fact it’s likely that they voted for Kerry because on both sides of my family you don’t register Democrat, you’re born a Democrat. You vote Democrat no matter what.
However they often have expressed conservative attitudes (anti-Mexican, even though we’re technically Mexican-American, anti-gay, anti-abortion). They are Middle America in Northern New Mexico. After hearing one of my poems, one of my aunts joked that we’re all a bunch of Mexican hillbillys. I couldn’t have said it better my damn poetic myself.
I am not working class per se. I write for a newspaper and teach poetry. I’m pretty white collar. My dad was a lineman for an electrical co-op and my mom, well she was an administraitve assistant – which sounds white collar but really isn’t. They worked paycheck to paycheck. I have that in common with them.
I’ve struggled with the thought that I shouldn’t be working in a newsroom. I should be doing the physical work my dad and grandfathers did (my grampas were a) owner of a junkyard/mechanic b) worked for a natural gas company as a journeyman. My grammas a) ran a daycare and was a housewife and b) was a secretary.
I’ve struggled with the idea that I am working class in a white collar world. I’m a working class kid who transcended that and got my college degree. I somehow ended up with liberal ideals through no encouragement from my family (excepting maybe, my great uncle the professor of political science).
My family is often homophobic, bigoted (yes Hispanics can be bigots – even to other Hispanics) and illiberal. But they are my family. I don’t forgive and of those attitudes but understand them and understand where they come from.
I sometimes find myself around them and feel contempt. But I also feel pride because they represent where I’m from. You can take the boy out of the small town, but you can’t tale the small town out the boy.
I think simple understanding would go a long way in the Left reconnect with Middle America. Middle America is not Mayberry. Middle America isn’t backwards or outdated. I understand why Middle America and the “Left” hve contempt for each other. But underneath it all, I see more similarities than differences.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:02 pm
Not to Middle America; that’s too easy and not truly what it’s about. In fact, if the left in this country is to survive and thrive, we’re going to have to be a little more sympathetic to these folks — or at least start treating them with less contempt.
Intersting you should mention this.
Ever since my gramma’s funeral I’ve been thinking about this – since before actually, but the funeral brought it into sharp relief.
I am the child of working class parents. Most, if not all, of my relatives are working class. They’re not, for the most part, zealots or far Right extremists. In fact it’s likely that they voted for Kerry because on both sides of my family you don’t register Democrat, you’re born a Democrat. You vote Democrat no matter what.
However they often have expressed conservative attitudes (anti-Mexican, even though we’re technically Mexican-American, anti-gay, anti-abortion). They are Middle America in Northern New Mexico. After hearing one of my poems, one of my aunts joked that we’re all a bunch of Mexican hillbillys. I couldn’t have said it better my damn poetic myself.
I am not working class per se. I write for a newspaper and teach poetry. I’m pretty white collar. My dad was a lineman for an electrical co-op and my mom, well she was an administraitve assistant – which sounds white collar but really isn’t. They worked paycheck to paycheck. I have that in common with them.
I’ve struggled with the thought that I shouldn’t be working in a newsroom. I should be doing the physical work my dad and grandfathers did (my grampas were a) owner of a junkyard/mechanic b) worked for a natural gas company as a journeyman. My grammas a) ran a daycare and was a housewife and b) was a secretary.
I’ve struggled with the idea that I am working class in a white collar world. I’m a working class kid who transcended that and got my college degree. I somehow ended up with liberal ideals through no encouragement from my family (excepting maybe, my great uncle the professor of political science).
My family is often homophobic, bigoted (yes Hispanics can be bigots – even to other Hispanics) and illiberal. But they are my family. I don’t forgive and of those attitudes but understand them and understand where they come from.
I sometimes find myself around them and feel contempt. But I also feel pride because they represent where I’m from. You can take the boy out of the small town, but you can’t tale the small town out the boy.
I think simple understanding would go a long way in the Left reconnect with Middle America. Middle America is not Mayberry. Middle America isn’t backwards or outdated. I understand why Middle America and the “Left” hve contempt for each other. But underneath it all, I see more similarities than differences.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:02 pm
Not to Middle America; that’s too easy and not truly what it’s about. In fact, if the left in this country is to survive and thrive, we’re going to have to be a little more sympathetic to these folks — or at least start treating them with less contempt.
Intersting you should mention this.
Ever since my gramma’s funeral I’ve been thinking about this – since before actually, but the funeral brought it into sharp relief.
I am the child of working class parents. Most, if not all, of my relatives are working class. They’re not, for the most part, zealots or far Right extremists. In fact it’s likely that they voted for Kerry because on both sides of my family you don’t register Democrat, you’re born a Democrat. You vote Democrat no matter what.
However they often have expressed conservative attitudes (anti-Mexican, even though we’re technically Mexican-American, anti-gay, anti-abortion). They are Middle America in Northern New Mexico. After hearing one of my poems, one of my aunts joked that we’re all a bunch of Mexican hillbillys. I couldn’t have said it better my damn poetic myself.
I am not working class per se. I write for a newspaper and teach poetry. I’m pretty white collar. My dad was a lineman for an electrical co-op and my mom, well she was an administraitve assistant – which sounds white collar but really isn’t. They worked paycheck to paycheck. I have that in common with them.
I’ve struggled with the thought that I shouldn’t be working in a newsroom. I should be doing the physical work my dad and grandfathers did (my grampas were a) owner of a junkyard/mechanic b) worked for a natural gas company as a journeyman. My grammas a) ran a daycare and was a housewife and b) was a secretary.
I’ve struggled with the idea that I am working class in a white collar world. I’m a working class kid who transcended that and got my college degree. I somehow ended up with liberal ideals through no encouragement from my family (excepting maybe, my great uncle the professor of political science).
My family is often homophobic, bigoted (yes Hispanics can be bigots – even to other Hispanics) and illiberal. But they are my family. I don’t forgive and of those attitudes but understand them and understand where they come from.
I sometimes find myself around them and feel contempt. But I also feel pride because they represent where I’m from. You can take the boy out of the small town, but you can’t tale the small town out the boy.
I think simple understanding would go a long way in the Left reconnect with Middle America. Middle America is not Mayberry. Middle America isn’t backwards or outdated. I understand why Middle America and the “Left” hve contempt for each other. But underneath it all, I see more similarities than differences.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:02 pm
Not to Middle America; that’s too easy and not truly what it’s about. In fact, if the left in this country is to survive and thrive, we’re going to have to be a little more sympathetic to these folks — or at least start treating them with less contempt.
Intersting you should mention this.
Ever since my gramma’s funeral I’ve been thinking about this – since before actually, but the funeral brought it into sharp relief.
I am the child of working class parents. Most, if not all, of my relatives are working class. They’re not, for the most part, zealots or far Right extremists. In fact it’s likely that they voted for Kerry because on both sides of my family you don’t register Democrat, you’re born a Democrat. You vote Democrat no matter what.
However they often have expressed conservative attitudes (anti-Mexican, even though we’re technically Mexican-American, anti-gay, anti-abortion). They are Middle America in Northern New Mexico. After hearing one of my poems, one of my aunts joked that we’re all a bunch of Mexican hillbillys. I couldn’t have said it better my damn poetic myself.
I am not working class per se. I write for a newspaper and teach poetry. I’m pretty white collar. My dad was a lineman for an electrical co-op and my mom, well she was an administraitve assistant – which sounds white collar but really isn’t. They worked paycheck to paycheck. I have that in common with them.
I’ve struggled with the thought that I shouldn’t be working in a newsroom. I should be doing the physical work my dad and grandfathers did (my grampas were a) owner of a junkyard/mechanic b) worked for a natural gas company as a journeyman. My grammas a) ran a daycare and was a housewife and b) was a secretary.
I’ve struggled with the idea that I am working class in a white collar world. I’m a working class kid who transcended that and got my college degree. I somehow ended up with liberal ideals through no encouragement from my family (excepting maybe, my great uncle the professor of political science).
My family is often homophobic, bigoted (yes Hispanics can be bigots – even to other Hispanics) and illiberal. But they are my family. I don’t forgive and of those attitudes but understand them and understand where they come from.
I sometimes find myself around them and feel contempt. But I also feel pride because they represent where I’m from. You can take the boy out of the small town, but you can’t tale the small town out the boy.
I think simple understanding would go a long way in the Left reconnect with Middle America. Middle America is not Mayberry. Middle America isn’t backwards or outdated. I understand why Middle America and the “Left” hve contempt for each other. But underneath it all, I see more similarities than differences.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:02 pm
Not to Middle America; that’s too easy and not truly what it’s about. In fact, if the left in this country is to survive and thrive, we’re going to have to be a little more sympathetic to these folks — or at least start treating them with less contempt.
Intersting you should mention this.
Ever since my gramma’s funeral I’ve been thinking about this – since before actually, but the funeral brought it into sharp relief.
I am the child of working class parents. Most, if not all, of my relatives are working class. They’re not, for the most part, zealots or far Right extremists. In fact it’s likely that they voted for Kerry because on both sides of my family you don’t register Democrat, you’re born a Democrat. You vote Democrat no matter what.
However they often have expressed conservative attitudes (anti-Mexican, even though we’re technically Mexican-American, anti-gay, anti-abortion). They are Middle America in Northern New Mexico. After hearing one of my poems, one of my aunts joked that we’re all a bunch of Mexican hillbillys. I couldn’t have said it better my damn poetic myself.
I am not working class per se. I write for a newspaper and teach poetry. I’m pretty white collar. My dad was a lineman for an electrical co-op and my mom, well she was an administraitve assistant – which sounds white collar but really isn’t. They worked paycheck to paycheck. I have that in common with them.
I’ve struggled with the thought that I shouldn’t be working in a newsroom. I should be doing the physical work my dad and grandfathers did (my grampas were a) owner of a junkyard/mechanic b) worked for a natural gas company as a journeyman. My grammas a) ran a daycare and was a housewife and b) was a secretary.
I’ve struggled with the idea that I am working class in a white collar world. I’m a working class kid who transcended that and got my college degree. I somehow ended up with liberal ideals through no encouragement from my family (excepting maybe, my great uncle the professor of political science).
My family is often homophobic, bigoted (yes Hispanics can be bigots – even to other Hispanics) and illiberal. But they are my family. I don’t forgive and of those attitudes but understand them and understand where they come from.
I sometimes find myself around them and feel contempt. But I also feel pride because they represent where I’m from. You can take the boy out of the small town, but you can’t tale the small town out the boy.
I think simple understanding would go a long way in the Left reconnect with Middle America. Middle America is not Mayberry. Middle America isn’t backwards or outdated. I understand why Middle America and the “Left” hve contempt for each other. But underneath it all, I see more similarities than differences.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:02 pm
Not to Middle America; that’s too easy and not truly what it’s about. In fact, if the left in this country is to survive and thrive, we’re going to have to be a little more sympathetic to these folks — or at least start treating them with less contempt.
Intersting you should mention this.
Ever since my gramma’s funeral I’ve been thinking about this – since before actually, but the funeral brought it into sharp relief.
I am the child of working class parents. Most, if not all, of my relatives are working class. They’re not, for the most part, zealots or far Right extremists. In fact it’s likely that they voted for Kerry because on both sides of my family you don’t register Democrat, you’re born a Democrat. You vote Democrat no matter what.
However they often have expressed conservative attitudes (anti-Mexican, even though we’re technically Mexican-American, anti-gay, anti-abortion). They are Middle America in Northern New Mexico. After hearing one of my poems, one of my aunts joked that we’re all a bunch of Mexican hillbillys. I couldn’t have said it better my damn poetic myself.
I am not working class per se. I write for a newspaper and teach poetry. I’m pretty white collar. My dad was a lineman for an electrical co-op and my mom, well she was an administraitve assistant – which sounds white collar but really isn’t. They worked paycheck to paycheck. I have that in common with them.
I’ve struggled with the thought that I shouldn’t be working in a newsroom. I should be doing the physical work my dad and grandfathers did (my grampas were a) owner of a junkyard/mechanic b) worked for a natural gas company as a journeyman. My grammas a) ran a daycare and was a housewife and b) was a secretary.
I’ve struggled with the idea that I am working class in a white collar world. I’m a working class kid who transcended that and got my college degree. I somehow ended up with liberal ideals through no encouragement from my family (excepting maybe, my great uncle the professor of political science).
My family is often homophobic, bigoted (yes Hispanics can be bigots – even to other Hispanics) and illiberal. But they are my family. I don’t forgive and of those attitudes but understand them and understand where they come from.
I sometimes find myself around them and feel contempt. But I also feel pride because they represent where I’m from. You can take the boy out of the small town, but you can’t tale the small town out the boy.
I think simple understanding would go a long way in the Left reconnect with Middle America. Middle America is not Mayberry. Middle America isn’t backwards or outdated. I understand why Middle America and the “Left” hve contempt for each other. But underneath it all, I see more similarities than differences.
November 3rd, 2004 at 9:13 pm
yep
We have got to start talking in coordinated language if this is going to work. We’ve got to have intelligent, multipart strategies that work from the same principles but use diverse methods to make their progress.
This is so right on, Tony. The Right controlled the language of the last four years, and that is what has carried them forward. Kerry did a little good this time around, but let Bush continue to stay on his own track. We do need to control the terms of the language in a very coordinated, unified way. That is the only way to win. We must dismantle phrases like “a culture of life”, and expose them for what they are: threats to civil rights and freedom.
As I drove home today, thinking abuot what Kerry could have done language-wise, and what we on the Left must do to win, the clearest answer I could articulate was begin to speak their language. We need to say things like, “We need better access to health care because it’s the moral thing to do”, and “if you want a culture of life, try to make the lives already here better before bringing in new ones.” Maybe we need to get snippy for a while, but snippy with depth. That was (partly) why Dean had such momentum– the made the attack points when others did not or would not.
I hate houw easily Kerry conceded. I felt duped. I want the tears, I want the crying. I want him to be real and show us that this mattered, that our losing mattered.
November 3rd, 2004 at 9:13 pm
yep
We have got to start talking in coordinated language if this is going to work. We’ve got to have intelligent, multipart strategies that work from the same principles but use diverse methods to make their progress.
This is so right on, Tony. The Right controlled the language of the last four years, and that is what has carried them forward. Kerry did a little good this time around, but let Bush continue to stay on his own track. We do need to control the terms of the language in a very coordinated, unified way. That is the only way to win. We must dismantle phrases like “a culture of life”, and expose them for what they are: threats to civil rights and freedom.
As I drove home today, thinking abuot what Kerry could have done language-wise, and what we on the Left must do to win, the clearest answer I could articulate was begin to speak their language. We need to say things like, “We need better access to health care because it’s the moral thing to do”, and “if you want a culture of life, try to make the lives already here better before bringing in new ones.” Maybe we need to get snippy for a while, but snippy with depth. That was (partly) why Dean had such momentum– the made the attack points when others did not or would not.
I hate houw easily Kerry conceded. I felt duped. I want the tears, I want the crying. I want him to be real and show us that this mattered, that our losing mattered.
November 3rd, 2004 at 9:13 pm
yep
We have got to start talking in coordinated language if this is going to work. We’ve got to have intelligent, multipart strategies that work from the same principles but use diverse methods to make their progress.
This is so right on, Tony. The Right controlled the language of the last four years, and that is what has carried them forward. Kerry did a little good this time around, but let Bush continue to stay on his own track. We do need to control the terms of the language in a very coordinated, unified way. That is the only way to win. We must dismantle phrases like “a culture of life”, and expose them for what they are: threats to civil rights and freedom.
As I drove home today, thinking abuot what Kerry could have done language-wise, and what we on the Left must do to win, the clearest answer I could articulate was begin to speak their language. We need to say things like, “We need better access to health care because it’s the moral thing to do”, and “if you want a culture of life, try to make the lives already here better before bringing in new ones.” Maybe we need to get snippy for a while, but snippy with depth. That was (partly) why Dean had such momentum– the made the attack points when others did not or would not.
I hate houw easily Kerry conceded. I felt duped. I want the tears, I want the crying. I want him to be real and show us that this mattered, that our losing mattered.
November 3rd, 2004 at 9:13 pm
yep
We have got to start talking in coordinated language if this is going to work. We’ve got to have intelligent, multipart strategies that work from the same principles but use diverse methods to make their progress.
This is so right on, Tony. The Right controlled the language of the last four years, and that is what has carried them forward. Kerry did a little good this time around, but let Bush continue to stay on his own track. We do need to control the terms of the language in a very coordinated, unified way. That is the only way to win. We must dismantle phrases like “a culture of life”, and expose them for what they are: threats to civil rights and freedom.
As I drove home today, thinking abuot what Kerry could have done language-wise, and what we on the Left must do to win, the clearest answer I could articulate was begin to speak their language. We need to say things like, “We need better access to health care because it’s the moral thing to do”, and “if you want a culture of life, try to make the lives already here better before bringing in new ones.” Maybe we need to get snippy for a while, but snippy with depth. That was (partly) why Dean had such momentum– the made the attack points when others did not or would not.
I hate houw easily Kerry conceded. I felt duped. I want the tears, I want the crying. I want him to be real and show us that this mattered, that our losing mattered.
November 3rd, 2004 at 9:13 pm
yep
We have got to start talking in coordinated language if this is going to work. We’ve got to have intelligent, multipart strategies that work from the same principles but use diverse methods to make their progress.
This is so right on, Tony. The Right controlled the language of the last four years, and that is what has carried them forward. Kerry did a little good this time around, but let Bush continue to stay on his own track. We do need to control the terms of the language in a very coordinated, unified way. That is the only way to win. We must dismantle phrases like “a culture of life”, and expose them for what they are: threats to civil rights and freedom.
As I drove home today, thinking abuot what Kerry could have done language-wise, and what we on the Left must do to win, the clearest answer I could articulate was begin to speak their language. We need to say things like, “We need better access to health care because it’s the moral thing to do”, and “if you want a culture of life, try to make the lives already here better before bringing in new ones.” Maybe we need to get snippy for a while, but snippy with depth. That was (partly) why Dean had such momentum– the made the attack points when others did not or would not.
I hate houw easily Kerry conceded. I felt duped. I want the tears, I want the crying. I want him to be real and show us that this mattered, that our losing mattered.
November 3rd, 2004 at 9:13 pm
yep
We have got to start talking in coordinated language if this is going to work. We’ve got to have intelligent, multipart strategies that work from the same principles but use diverse methods to make their progress.
This is so right on, Tony. The Right controlled the language of the last four years, and that is what has carried them forward. Kerry did a little good this time around, but let Bush continue to stay on his own track. We do need to control the terms of the language in a very coordinated, unified way. That is the only way to win. We must dismantle phrases like “a culture of life”, and expose them for what they are: threats to civil rights and freedom.
As I drove home today, thinking abuot what Kerry could have done language-wise, and what we on the Left must do to win, the clearest answer I could articulate was begin to speak their language. We need to say things like, “We need better access to health care because it’s the moral thing to do”, and “if you want a culture of life, try to make the lives already here better before bringing in new ones.” Maybe we need to get snippy for a while, but snippy with depth. That was (partly) why Dean had such momentum– the made the attack points when others did not or would not.
I hate houw easily Kerry conceded. I felt duped. I want the tears, I want the crying. I want him to be real and show us that this mattered, that our losing mattered.
November 3rd, 2004 at 9:13 pm
yep
We have got to start talking in coordinated language if this is going to work. We’ve got to have intelligent, multipart strategies that work from the same principles but use diverse methods to make their progress.
This is so right on, Tony. The Right controlled the language of the last four years, and that is what has carried them forward. Kerry did a little good this time around, but let Bush continue to stay on his own track. We do need to control the terms of the language in a very coordinated, unified way. That is the only way to win. We must dismantle phrases like “a culture of life”, and expose them for what they are: threats to civil rights and freedom.
As I drove home today, thinking abuot what Kerry could have done language-wise, and what we on the Left must do to win, the clearest answer I could articulate was begin to speak their language. We need to say things like, “We need better access to health care because it’s the moral thing to do”, and “if you want a culture of life, try to make the lives already here better before bringing in new ones.” Maybe we need to get snippy for a while, but snippy with depth. That was (partly) why Dean had such momentum– the made the attack points when others did not or would not.
I hate houw easily Kerry conceded. I felt duped. I want the tears, I want the crying. I want him to be real and show us that this mattered, that our losing mattered.
November 3rd, 2004 at 9:13 pm
yep
We have got to start talking in coordinated language if this is going to work. We’ve got to have intelligent, multipart strategies that work from the same principles but use diverse methods to make their progress.
This is so right on, Tony. The Right controlled the language of the last four years, and that is what has carried them forward. Kerry did a little good this time around, but let Bush continue to stay on his own track. We do need to control the terms of the language in a very coordinated, unified way. That is the only way to win. We must dismantle phrases like “a culture of life”, and expose them for what they are: threats to civil rights and freedom.
As I drove home today, thinking abuot what Kerry could have done language-wise, and what we on the Left must do to win, the clearest answer I could articulate was begin to speak their language. We need to say things like, “We need better access to health care because it’s the moral thing to do”, and “if you want a culture of life, try to make the lives already here better before bringing in new ones.” Maybe we need to get snippy for a while, but snippy with depth. That was (partly) why Dean had such momentum– the made the attack points when others did not or would not.
I hate houw easily Kerry conceded. I felt duped. I want the tears, I want the crying. I want him to be real and show us that this mattered, that our losing mattered.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:48 pm
Ontological terrorism, babe. I’m there.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:48 pm
Ontological terrorism, babe. I’m there.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:48 pm
Ontological terrorism, babe. I’m there.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:48 pm
Ontological terrorism, babe. I’m there.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:48 pm
Ontological terrorism, babe. I’m there.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:48 pm
Ontological terrorism, babe. I’m there.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:48 pm
Ontological terrorism, babe. I’m there.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:48 pm
Ontological terrorism, babe. I’m there.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:33 pm
One more thing: I’m not all that interested in healing, unity, or cooperation today. I may be tomorrow, or the next day — but not today.
i’m glad to know i wasn’t the only feeling this way today. glad i didn’t have to work. >:[
my argument to myself now is this: on one hand, i feel like the cliche generation x’ster that says fuckit to everything and goes back to getting high and watching reruns of dave chapelle with a few AMN videos thrown in to keep it interesting. but then…i think of all the shit bush has tried to do over the past four years, and NOT accomplished. he hasn’t gotten as far as he would have liked, and there’s still an opportunity to keep him at bay. just gotta spread the word – WE STILL CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. texas can’t stay a fucking red state forever.
hell.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:33 pm
One more thing: I’m not all that interested in healing, unity, or cooperation today. I may be tomorrow, or the next day — but not today.
i’m glad to know i wasn’t the only feeling this way today. glad i didn’t have to work. >:[
my argument to myself now is this: on one hand, i feel like the cliche generation x’ster that says fuckit to everything and goes back to getting high and watching reruns of dave chapelle with a few AMN videos thrown in to keep it interesting. but then…i think of all the shit bush has tried to do over the past four years, and NOT accomplished. he hasn’t gotten as far as he would have liked, and there’s still an opportunity to keep him at bay. just gotta spread the word – WE STILL CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. texas can’t stay a fucking red state forever.
hell.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:33 pm
One more thing: I’m not all that interested in healing, unity, or cooperation today. I may be tomorrow, or the next day — but not today.
i’m glad to know i wasn’t the only feeling this way today. glad i didn’t have to work. >:[
my argument to myself now is this: on one hand, i feel like the cliche generation x’ster that says fuckit to everything and goes back to getting high and watching reruns of dave chapelle with a few AMN videos thrown in to keep it interesting. but then…i think of all the shit bush has tried to do over the past four years, and NOT accomplished. he hasn’t gotten as far as he would have liked, and there’s still an opportunity to keep him at bay. just gotta spread the word – WE STILL CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. texas can’t stay a fucking red state forever.
hell.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:33 pm
One more thing: I’m not all that interested in healing, unity, or cooperation today. I may be tomorrow, or the next day — but not today.
i’m glad to know i wasn’t the only feeling this way today. glad i didn’t have to work. >:[
my argument to myself now is this: on one hand, i feel like the cliche generation x’ster that says fuckit to everything and goes back to getting high and watching reruns of dave chapelle with a few AMN videos thrown in to keep it interesting. but then…i think of all the shit bush has tried to do over the past four years, and NOT accomplished. he hasn’t gotten as far as he would have liked, and there’s still an opportunity to keep him at bay. just gotta spread the word – WE STILL CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. texas can’t stay a fucking red state forever.
hell.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:33 pm
One more thing: I’m not all that interested in healing, unity, or cooperation today. I may be tomorrow, or the next day — but not today.
i’m glad to know i wasn’t the only feeling this way today. glad i didn’t have to work. >:[
my argument to myself now is this: on one hand, i feel like the cliche generation x’ster that says fuckit to everything and goes back to getting high and watching reruns of dave chapelle with a few AMN videos thrown in to keep it interesting. but then…i think of all the shit bush has tried to do over the past four years, and NOT accomplished. he hasn’t gotten as far as he would have liked, and there’s still an opportunity to keep him at bay. just gotta spread the word – WE STILL CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. texas can’t stay a fucking red state forever.
hell.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:33 pm
One more thing: I’m not all that interested in healing, unity, or cooperation today. I may be tomorrow, or the next day — but not today.
i’m glad to know i wasn’t the only feeling this way today. glad i didn’t have to work. >:[
my argument to myself now is this: on one hand, i feel like the cliche generation x’ster that says fuckit to everything and goes back to getting high and watching reruns of dave chapelle with a few AMN videos thrown in to keep it interesting. but then…i think of all the shit bush has tried to do over the past four years, and NOT accomplished. he hasn’t gotten as far as he would have liked, and there’s still an opportunity to keep him at bay. just gotta spread the word – WE STILL CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. texas can’t stay a fucking red state forever.
hell.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:33 pm
One more thing: I’m not all that interested in healing, unity, or cooperation today. I may be tomorrow, or the next day — but not today.
i’m glad to know i wasn’t the only feeling this way today. glad i didn’t have to work. >:[
my argument to myself now is this: on one hand, i feel like the cliche generation x’ster that says fuckit to everything and goes back to getting high and watching reruns of dave chapelle with a few AMN videos thrown in to keep it interesting. but then…i think of all the shit bush has tried to do over the past four years, and NOT accomplished. he hasn’t gotten as far as he would have liked, and there’s still an opportunity to keep him at bay. just gotta spread the word – WE STILL CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. texas can’t stay a fucking red state forever.
hell.
November 3rd, 2004 at 8:33 pm
One more thing: I’m not all that interested in healing, unity, or cooperation today. I may be tomorrow, or the next day — but not today.
i’m glad to know i wasn’t the only feeling this way today. glad i didn’t have to work. >:[
my argument to myself now is this: on one hand, i feel like the cliche generation x’ster that says fuckit to everything and goes back to getting high and watching reruns of dave chapelle with a few AMN videos thrown in to keep it interesting. but then…i think of all the shit bush has tried to do over the past four years, and NOT accomplished. he hasn’t gotten as far as he would have liked, and there’s still an opportunity to keep him at bay. just gotta spread the word – WE STILL CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. texas can’t stay a fucking red state forever.
hell.