and waiting for a rescheduled appointment.
just_jeff and rosa_ostrina were talking in their respective journals about this poem of mine, which is several years old and published in a number of places now; I was honored and humbled to find that rosa_ostrina covers it (I wanna hear it!).
Jeff’s got a piece which springs from much the same well over on his journal right now, so I thought it would be fitting to put this up today…
There’s a huge story behind it, but it also speaks for itself.
POLITICAL ART
a print of “ Guernica” hangs on the foyer wall
above the drink table
here are the famous horse and the upraised human face
they’re screaming as the hors d’oeuvres are passed
and on the facing wall
behind the buffet
hang two photographs
carefully chosen for tonight
in this one is a girl we have seen before
running and burning on a road in Vietnam years and years ago
back then she was trying to fly to safety
on the innocent strength rising along her fiery arms
in this one is a man we’ve also seen before
and despite his death in 1890 he also keeps trying
but he’s frozen awkward and insolent in his attempt
to rise from the snow at Wounded Knee
we are making small talk tonight
clicking our tongues at all these pictures
making crestfallen small talk
because we know we should
handing over money
to save Afghani statues from the guns of rapists
handing over fistfuls of green guilt
for the anesthetic of aesthetics
buying permission to posture unflinching
before those who have fallen
permission to shelter in these picturesque memorials
in the hope of receiving from them some kind of prophylactic grace
as we stare at the burning girl
as we sadly regret Wounded Knee and genocide
as we admire the abstraction of that burning Spanish town
we will click our tongues
while marking the skill of the artist at having those faces
seem so stark in their angled black and white
seem so shot through and through
with an undertone of subconscious red
it’s from this we’ve learned how to watch the news
the news that gives us each day our daily dread
a new crop of victims to be cropped and photoshopped
and we know just what to do when we see the faces
we observe
we regret
we remark
we move on
tonight there’s a gallery fundraiser
tomorrow there will be another
we’ll see the burning girl and the rising corpse again
and we’ll make another print of “Guernica”
why
do we need
all these prints
of “Guernica”?
someday we’ll see
that if we had been changed by all this art
at the first hint of genocide we would smash our cameras
hang our paintbrushes back on the wall
stick our checkbooks back in our pockets
lift the paintings from their frames
and carry them through the streets
to the places of power calling why why
if the people inside our work could speak
they would tell us that if witness alone could change the world
the world would be changed by now
and we would have no need to learn
that this picture
of that girl
is not
beautiful
Dark Matter 
July 19th, 2004 at 10:52 am
Re: I’m honored and humbled…
Oh, let me known if you do it! Love to hear how it goes…and thank you in advance.
July 19th, 2004 at 10:52 am
Re: I’m honored and humbled…
Oh, let me known if you do it! Love to hear how it goes…and thank you in advance.
July 19th, 2004 at 10:52 am
Re: I’m honored and humbled…
Oh, let me known if you do it! Love to hear how it goes…and thank you in advance.
July 19th, 2004 at 10:52 am
Re: I’m honored and humbled…
Oh, let me known if you do it! Love to hear how it goes…and thank you in advance.
July 19th, 2004 at 10:26 am
I’m honored and humbled…
…that you’re honored and humbled. ; ) I have my first feature at a slam venue in eons tomorrow night; this may very well be part of the set.
July 19th, 2004 at 10:26 am
I’m honored and humbled…
…that you’re honored and humbled. ; ) I have my first feature at a slam venue in eons tomorrow night; this may very well be part of the set.
July 19th, 2004 at 10:26 am
I’m honored and humbled…
…that you’re honored and humbled. ; ) I have my first feature at a slam venue in eons tomorrow night; this may very well be part of the set.
July 19th, 2004 at 10:26 am
I’m honored and humbled…
…that you’re honored and humbled. ; ) I have my first feature at a slam venue in eons tomorrow night; this may very well be part of the set.
July 17th, 2004 at 6:18 am
Re: Also…
“all those john lennon fans voting for bush”-just_jeff
“that the true problem is the consumer of political art, not the producer. Hm.”-chryslerpoet
In my view that is hitting the nail right on the head. For all the growth people SEEMED to have derived from art in the last 40 years alone (John Lennon being an icon of such artistic endeavors) here we are making war and not love once again. Our sense of peace and love is being pitted against our sense of Patriotism (when in truth our sense of Patriotism should be leading us to peace not war). The very people who have the funds to patron the arts are those who have put away their placards and succumbed to this rhetoric.
July 17th, 2004 at 6:18 am
Re: Also…
“all those john lennon fans voting for bush”-just_jeff
“that the true problem is the consumer of political art, not the producer. Hm.”-chryslerpoet
In my view that is hitting the nail right on the head. For all the growth people SEEMED to have derived from art in the last 40 years alone (John Lennon being an icon of such artistic endeavors) here we are making war and not love once again. Our sense of peace and love is being pitted against our sense of Patriotism (when in truth our sense of Patriotism should be leading us to peace not war). The very people who have the funds to patron the arts are those who have put away their placards and succumbed to this rhetoric.
July 17th, 2004 at 6:18 am
Re: Also…
“all those john lennon fans voting for bush”-just_jeff
“that the true problem is the consumer of political art, not the producer. Hm.”-chryslerpoet
In my view that is hitting the nail right on the head. For all the growth people SEEMED to have derived from art in the last 40 years alone (John Lennon being an icon of such artistic endeavors) here we are making war and not love once again. Our sense of peace and love is being pitted against our sense of Patriotism (when in truth our sense of Patriotism should be leading us to peace not war). The very people who have the funds to patron the arts are those who have put away their placards and succumbed to this rhetoric.
July 17th, 2004 at 6:18 am
Re: Also…
“all those john lennon fans voting for bush”-just_jeff
“that the true problem is the consumer of political art, not the producer. Hm.”-chryslerpoet
In my view that is hitting the nail right on the head. For all the growth people SEEMED to have derived from art in the last 40 years alone (John Lennon being an icon of such artistic endeavors) here we are making war and not love once again. Our sense of peace and love is being pitted against our sense of Patriotism (when in truth our sense of Patriotism should be leading us to peace not war). The very people who have the funds to patron the arts are those who have put away their placards and succumbed to this rhetoric.
July 16th, 2004 at 2:16 pm
I do not what to say.
A lot depends on what we can do, and what we have already done.
July 16th, 2004 at 2:16 pm
I do not what to say.
A lot depends on what we can do, and what we have already done.
July 16th, 2004 at 2:16 pm
I do not what to say.
A lot depends on what we can do, and what we have already done.
July 16th, 2004 at 2:16 pm
I do not what to say.
A lot depends on what we can do, and what we have already done.
July 16th, 2004 at 2:06 pm
Well, that’s a point of agreement, for sure.
I don’t think this is a resolvable issue — it’s one of the dilemmas of the artist; when is witness enough? I don’t think we ever know until after the fact.
But we do what we do because it’s what we do, right?
July 16th, 2004 at 2:06 pm
Well, that’s a point of agreement, for sure.
I don’t think this is a resolvable issue — it’s one of the dilemmas of the artist; when is witness enough? I don’t think we ever know until after the fact.
But we do what we do because it’s what we do, right?
July 16th, 2004 at 2:06 pm
Well, that’s a point of agreement, for sure.
I don’t think this is a resolvable issue — it’s one of the dilemmas of the artist; when is witness enough? I don’t think we ever know until after the fact.
But we do what we do because it’s what we do, right?
July 16th, 2004 at 2:06 pm
Well, that’s a point of agreement, for sure.
I don’t think this is a resolvable issue — it’s one of the dilemmas of the artist; when is witness enough? I don’t think we ever know until after the fact.
But we do what we do because it’s what we do, right?
July 16th, 2004 at 2:03 pm
Sometimes it’s a conflict of real, significant values. Do you act immediately, or do you stay detached and hope to change things in a long run? Life sucks, no doubt.
July 16th, 2004 at 2:03 pm
Sometimes it’s a conflict of real, significant values. Do you act immediately, or do you stay detached and hope to change things in a long run? Life sucks, no doubt.
July 16th, 2004 at 2:03 pm
Sometimes it’s a conflict of real, significant values. Do you act immediately, or do you stay detached and hope to change things in a long run? Life sucks, no doubt.
July 16th, 2004 at 2:03 pm
Sometimes it’s a conflict of real, significant values. Do you act immediately, or do you stay detached and hope to change things in a long run? Life sucks, no doubt.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:57 pm
Humane, first. I agree.
But I’m not sure all agree. I think about the movie “Salvador,” for instance, and those photographers who felt they were doing a service to the cause by documenting the atrocities being committed. There was still a certain detachment that felt distasteful to me in there. (Not a critique of the movie, by the way. I think that was part of the point of it…)
July 16th, 2004 at 1:57 pm
Humane, first. I agree.
But I’m not sure all agree. I think about the movie “Salvador,” for instance, and those photographers who felt they were doing a service to the cause by documenting the atrocities being committed. There was still a certain detachment that felt distasteful to me in there. (Not a critique of the movie, by the way. I think that was part of the point of it…)
July 16th, 2004 at 1:57 pm
Humane, first. I agree.
But I’m not sure all agree. I think about the movie “Salvador,” for instance, and those photographers who felt they were doing a service to the cause by documenting the atrocities being committed. There was still a certain detachment that felt distasteful to me in there. (Not a critique of the movie, by the way. I think that was part of the point of it…)
July 16th, 2004 at 1:57 pm
Humane, first. I agree.
But I’m not sure all agree. I think about the movie “Salvador,” for instance, and those photographers who felt they were doing a service to the cause by documenting the atrocities being committed. There was still a certain detachment that felt distasteful to me in there. (Not a critique of the movie, by the way. I think that was part of the point of it…)
July 16th, 2004 at 1:53 pm
Re: Also…
It’s really this group of people who the poem is addressed to. The artistic issues are secondary, I think, in this poem, or only come out near the end when the pictures and cameras get smashed.
I’m not sure I ever really thought about that in such depth before — that the true problem is the consumer of political art, not the producer. Hm.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:53 pm
Re: Also…
It’s really this group of people who the poem is addressed to. The artistic issues are secondary, I think, in this poem, or only come out near the end when the pictures and cameras get smashed.
I’m not sure I ever really thought about that in such depth before — that the true problem is the consumer of political art, not the producer. Hm.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:53 pm
Re: Also…
It’s really this group of people who the poem is addressed to. The artistic issues are secondary, I think, in this poem, or only come out near the end when the pictures and cameras get smashed.
I’m not sure I ever really thought about that in such depth before — that the true problem is the consumer of political art, not the producer. Hm.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:53 pm
Re: Also…
It’s really this group of people who the poem is addressed to. The artistic issues are secondary, I think, in this poem, or only come out near the end when the pictures and cameras get smashed.
I’m not sure I ever really thought about that in such depth before — that the true problem is the consumer of political art, not the producer. Hm.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:52 pm
“I guess I see that picture and I don’t see beauty. I see pain, etc.”
I understand. But what do others see. Are they sanitized to the effect that they perceive it as an artistic object only or do they also see pain. And, if they see pain, are they willing to do something about it — I think that’s the point.
Humane, first. I understand about the detachment. (Also, it may have value, art sometimes motivates people to do right thing, but this is beside the point.)
July 16th, 2004 at 1:52 pm
“I guess I see that picture and I don’t see beauty. I see pain, etc.”
I understand. But what do others see. Are they sanitized to the effect that they perceive it as an artistic object only or do they also see pain. And, if they see pain, are they willing to do something about it — I think that’s the point.
Humane, first. I understand about the detachment. (Also, it may have value, art sometimes motivates people to do right thing, but this is beside the point.)
July 16th, 2004 at 1:52 pm
“I guess I see that picture and I don’t see beauty. I see pain, etc.”
I understand. But what do others see. Are they sanitized to the effect that they perceive it as an artistic object only or do they also see pain. And, if they see pain, are they willing to do something about it — I think that’s the point.
Humane, first. I understand about the detachment. (Also, it may have value, art sometimes motivates people to do right thing, but this is beside the point.)
July 16th, 2004 at 1:52 pm
“I guess I see that picture and I don’t see beauty. I see pain, etc.”
I understand. But what do others see. Are they sanitized to the effect that they perceive it as an artistic object only or do they also see pain. And, if they see pain, are they willing to do something about it — I think that’s the point.
Humane, first. I understand about the detachment. (Also, it may have value, art sometimes motivates people to do right thing, but this is beside the point.)
July 16th, 2004 at 1:49 pm
Re: Also…
i’ve had this very thought–all those john lennon fans voting for bush–and it gets under my skin.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:49 pm
Re: Also…
i’ve had this very thought–all those john lennon fans voting for bush–and it gets under my skin.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:49 pm
Re: Also…
i’ve had this very thought–all those john lennon fans voting for bush–and it gets under my skin.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:49 pm
Re: Also…
i’ve had this very thought–all those john lennon fans voting for bush–and it gets under my skin.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:34 pm
Well, I dunno. I guess I see that picture and I don’t see beauty. I see pain, etc.
And I think about that photographer, who took it. What was he thinking as he snapped the picture? (I know he actually did give aid to her later.)
In general…are you humane first, or artist? Because I think there’s a detachment involved in the latter that sometimes trumps the former.
I don’t really want the ambiguities resolved here. I want them open and fresh and raw.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:34 pm
Well, I dunno. I guess I see that picture and I don’t see beauty. I see pain, etc.
And I think about that photographer, who took it. What was he thinking as he snapped the picture? (I know he actually did give aid to her later.)
In general…are you humane first, or artist? Because I think there’s a detachment involved in the latter that sometimes trumps the former.
I don’t really want the ambiguities resolved here. I want them open and fresh and raw.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:34 pm
Well, I dunno. I guess I see that picture and I don’t see beauty. I see pain, etc.
And I think about that photographer, who took it. What was he thinking as he snapped the picture? (I know he actually did give aid to her later.)
In general…are you humane first, or artist? Because I think there’s a detachment involved in the latter that sometimes trumps the former.
I don’t really want the ambiguities resolved here. I want them open and fresh and raw.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:34 pm
Well, I dunno. I guess I see that picture and I don’t see beauty. I see pain, etc.
And I think about that photographer, who took it. What was he thinking as he snapped the picture? (I know he actually did give aid to her later.)
In general…are you humane first, or artist? Because I think there’s a detachment involved in the latter that sometimes trumps the former.
I don’t really want the ambiguities resolved here. I want them open and fresh and raw.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:27 pm
“But as bleak as this poem may be about the limits of art, it’s not entirely hopeless.”
I agree.
“My reaction here was really to those artists (think: slam poets) whose entire reaction to tragedy and pain and injustice is artistic,”
This was not totally clear in the poem. I think you can sharpen it. For example, handing money to save statutes is not a purely artistic reaction. In fact, it probably is a positive action which may have a concrete political impact. (I’m not sure whether the motives (or intentions) are always right, but this may be beside the point; especially, if they are sometimes right, i.e. we do it to help them and not to quiet our own minds.)
I think I know what you are trying to say. And I agree that the dangers are subtle. So, we need to talk about those dangers with subtlety and precision.
By tw way, I’m not being critical here. I’m just trying to verbalize my reactions. I hope you do not mind.
Ok, here is another impression. In the ending you say:
“and we would have no need to learn
that this picture
of that girl
is not
beautiful.”
But I think your point is about transcending those aesthetical reaction and not rejecting them. That is, the picture may really be beautiful, but its being beautiful is not really the point. So, I guess, don’t you want to say something like:
and we would have no need to learn
that (setting the beauty aside)
that girl
in this picture
is still burning…
Just a suggestion.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:27 pm
“But as bleak as this poem may be about the limits of art, it’s not entirely hopeless.”
I agree.
“My reaction here was really to those artists (think: slam poets) whose entire reaction to tragedy and pain and injustice is artistic,”
This was not totally clear in the poem. I think you can sharpen it. For example, handing money to save statutes is not a purely artistic reaction. In fact, it probably is a positive action which may have a concrete political impact. (I’m not sure whether the motives (or intentions) are always right, but this may be beside the point; especially, if they are sometimes right, i.e. we do it to help them and not to quiet our own minds.)
I think I know what you are trying to say. And I agree that the dangers are subtle. So, we need to talk about those dangers with subtlety and precision.
By tw way, I’m not being critical here. I’m just trying to verbalize my reactions. I hope you do not mind.
Ok, here is another impression. In the ending you say:
“and we would have no need to learn
that this picture
of that girl
is not
beautiful.”
But I think your point is about transcending those aesthetical reaction and not rejecting them. That is, the picture may really be beautiful, but its being beautiful is not really the point. So, I guess, don’t you want to say something like:
and we would have no need to learn
that (setting the beauty aside)
that girl
in this picture
is still burning…
Just a suggestion.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:27 pm
“But as bleak as this poem may be about the limits of art, it’s not entirely hopeless.”
I agree.
“My reaction here was really to those artists (think: slam poets) whose entire reaction to tragedy and pain and injustice is artistic,”
This was not totally clear in the poem. I think you can sharpen it. For example, handing money to save statutes is not a purely artistic reaction. In fact, it probably is a positive action which may have a concrete political impact. (I’m not sure whether the motives (or intentions) are always right, but this may be beside the point; especially, if they are sometimes right, i.e. we do it to help them and not to quiet our own minds.)
I think I know what you are trying to say. And I agree that the dangers are subtle. So, we need to talk about those dangers with subtlety and precision.
By tw way, I’m not being critical here. I’m just trying to verbalize my reactions. I hope you do not mind.
Ok, here is another impression. In the ending you say:
“and we would have no need to learn
that this picture
of that girl
is not
beautiful.”
But I think your point is about transcending those aesthetical reaction and not rejecting them. That is, the picture may really be beautiful, but its being beautiful is not really the point. So, I guess, don’t you want to say something like:
and we would have no need to learn
that (setting the beauty aside)
that girl
in this picture
is still burning…
Just a suggestion.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:27 pm
“But as bleak as this poem may be about the limits of art, it’s not entirely hopeless.”
I agree.
“My reaction here was really to those artists (think: slam poets) whose entire reaction to tragedy and pain and injustice is artistic,”
This was not totally clear in the poem. I think you can sharpen it. For example, handing money to save statutes is not a purely artistic reaction. In fact, it probably is a positive action which may have a concrete political impact. (I’m not sure whether the motives (or intentions) are always right, but this may be beside the point; especially, if they are sometimes right, i.e. we do it to help them and not to quiet our own minds.)
I think I know what you are trying to say. And I agree that the dangers are subtle. So, we need to talk about those dangers with subtlety and precision.
By tw way, I’m not being critical here. I’m just trying to verbalize my reactions. I hope you do not mind.
Ok, here is another impression. In the ending you say:
“and we would have no need to learn
that this picture
of that girl
is not
beautiful.”
But I think your point is about transcending those aesthetical reaction and not rejecting them. That is, the picture may really be beautiful, but its being beautiful is not really the point. So, I guess, don’t you want to say something like:
and we would have no need to learn
that (setting the beauty aside)
that girl
in this picture
is still burning…
Just a suggestion.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:01 pm
Also…
The other angle, of course, is those who consume political art without regard to the larger picture, and think it’s enough to do just that.
That’s who I’m really pissed at.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:01 pm
Also…
The other angle, of course, is those who consume political art without regard to the larger picture, and think it’s enough to do just that.
That’s who I’m really pissed at.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:01 pm
Also…
The other angle, of course, is those who consume political art without regard to the larger picture, and think it’s enough to do just that.
That’s who I’m really pissed at.
July 16th, 2004 at 1:01 pm
Also…
The other angle, of course, is those who consume political art without regard to the larger picture, and think it’s enough to do just that.
That’s who I’m really pissed at.
July 16th, 2004 at 12:57 pm
Maybe not.
But as bleak as this poem may be about the limits of art, it’s not entirely hopeless.
My reaction here was really to those artists (think: slam poets) whose entire reaction to tragedy and pain and injustice is artistic, with no corresponding shift in personal habits or direct action as citizens of the country/world.
Being a political artist here is different than it is in so many countries where the art making itself is a political act on a dangerous scale. The dangers here are more subtle — not non-existent, but subtle.
They’ll generally let you be political as long as you don’t try to link your work too closely to action.
July 16th, 2004 at 12:57 pm
Maybe not.
But as bleak as this poem may be about the limits of art, it’s not entirely hopeless.
My reaction here was really to those artists (think: slam poets) whose entire reaction to tragedy and pain and injustice is artistic, with no corresponding shift in personal habits or direct action as citizens of the country/world.
Being a political artist here is different than it is in so many countries where the art making itself is a political act on a dangerous scale. The dangers here are more subtle — not non-existent, but subtle.
They’ll generally let you be political as long as you don’t try to link your work too closely to action.
July 16th, 2004 at 12:57 pm
Maybe not.
But as bleak as this poem may be about the limits of art, it’s not entirely hopeless.
My reaction here was really to those artists (think: slam poets) whose entire reaction to tragedy and pain and injustice is artistic, with no corresponding shift in personal habits or direct action as citizens of the country/world.
Being a political artist here is different than it is in so many countries where the art making itself is a political act on a dangerous scale. The dangers here are more subtle — not non-existent, but subtle.
They’ll generally let you be political as long as you don’t try to link your work too closely to action.
July 16th, 2004 at 12:57 pm
Maybe not.
But as bleak as this poem may be about the limits of art, it’s not entirely hopeless.
My reaction here was really to those artists (think: slam poets) whose entire reaction to tragedy and pain and injustice is artistic, with no corresponding shift in personal habits or direct action as citizens of the country/world.
Being a political artist here is different than it is in so many countries where the art making itself is a political act on a dangerous scale. The dangers here are more subtle — not non-existent, but subtle.
They’ll generally let you be political as long as you don’t try to link your work too closely to action.
July 16th, 2004 at 12:12 pm
Very powerful.
“if witness alone could change the world
the world would be changed by now”.
Tony, I think the world has been changed by now. In part because some of us bare the witness. Of course, the world has not changed enough. Maybe it never will.
July 16th, 2004 at 12:12 pm
Very powerful.
“if witness alone could change the world
the world would be changed by now”.
Tony, I think the world has been changed by now. In part because some of us bare the witness. Of course, the world has not changed enough. Maybe it never will.
July 16th, 2004 at 12:12 pm
Very powerful.
“if witness alone could change the world
the world would be changed by now”.
Tony, I think the world has been changed by now. In part because some of us bare the witness. Of course, the world has not changed enough. Maybe it never will.
July 16th, 2004 at 12:12 pm
Very powerful.
“if witness alone could change the world
the world would be changed by now”.
Tony, I think the world has been changed by now. In part because some of us bare the witness. Of course, the world has not changed enough. Maybe it never will.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:26 am
Re: oh, man.
Thanks. I’m really proud of this one; a poem that took months to wring out of a jumble of experiences.
Really, for a poet with a rep for political work, it’s one poem that really addresses the limits of the genre.
Maybe that’s why I like it.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:26 am
Re: oh, man.
Thanks. I’m really proud of this one; a poem that took months to wring out of a jumble of experiences.
Really, for a poet with a rep for political work, it’s one poem that really addresses the limits of the genre.
Maybe that’s why I like it.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:26 am
Re: oh, man.
Thanks. I’m really proud of this one; a poem that took months to wring out of a jumble of experiences.
Really, for a poet with a rep for political work, it’s one poem that really addresses the limits of the genre.
Maybe that’s why I like it.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:26 am
Re: oh, man.
Thanks. I’m really proud of this one; a poem that took months to wring out of a jumble of experiences.
Really, for a poet with a rep for political work, it’s one poem that really addresses the limits of the genre.
Maybe that’s why I like it.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:24 am
Re: oh, man.
should be: back to the *first* line to re-read.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:24 am
Re: oh, man.
should be: back to the *first* line to re-read.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:24 am
Re: oh, man.
should be: back to the *first* line to re-read.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:24 am
Re: oh, man.
should be: back to the *first* line to re-read.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:23 am
oh, man.
wow. this is powerfully done, and as soon as i read it through once i went back to the line to re-read.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:23 am
oh, man.
wow. this is powerfully done, and as soon as i read it through once i went back to the line to re-read.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:23 am
oh, man.
wow. this is powerfully done, and as soon as i read it through once i went back to the line to re-read.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:23 am
oh, man.
wow. this is powerfully done, and as soon as i read it through once i went back to the line to re-read.