The new Zero Point Zero is up.
One guess what it’s about.
But I surprised myself; I think I did something far better than the polemic I would have expected me to write.
Who woulda thunk it, right?
Dig in, go read it, comment there, here, repost it, trash it…rock out with your bad selves.
Dark Matter 
July 11th, 2004 at 12:54 pm
definitely…
And if PSI isn’t willing to do it – which, based on it’s track record, I don’t see happening – it should be done in conjunction with whichever teams/poets are considering pulling out as a boycott.
July 11th, 2004 at 12:54 pm
definitely…
And if PSI isn’t willing to do it – which, based on it’s track record, I don’t see happening – it should be done in conjunction with whichever teams/poets are considering pulling out as a boycott.
July 11th, 2004 at 12:54 pm
definitely…
And if PSI isn’t willing to do it – which, based on it’s track record, I don’t see happening – it should be done in conjunction with whichever teams/poets are considering pulling out as a boycott.
July 11th, 2004 at 12:54 pm
definitely…
And if PSI isn’t willing to do it – which, based on it’s track record, I don’t see happening – it should be done in conjunction with whichever teams/poets are considering pulling out as a boycott.
July 11th, 2004 at 9:29 am
From one Dawn to another
I love this idea. I haven’t posted much on the listserve because…well….because. I am already not going to Nationals and the CC crap is just icing on the cake.
What would we have to do to get this idea started? Write a press release? Get the PSI community to finally take a stand on something? How many people do we need to get involved to get this off the ground?
I’m willing to fight and do whatever I need to to help this work. Well short of going to St. Lick my ass, since I can’t stand anything these people have done this year for NPS. Anyway. Let’s chat.
July 11th, 2004 at 9:29 am
From one Dawn to another
I love this idea. I haven’t posted much on the listserve because…well….because. I am already not going to Nationals and the CC crap is just icing on the cake.
What would we have to do to get this idea started? Write a press release? Get the PSI community to finally take a stand on something? How many people do we need to get involved to get this off the ground?
I’m willing to fight and do whatever I need to to help this work. Well short of going to St. Lick my ass, since I can’t stand anything these people have done this year for NPS. Anyway. Let’s chat.
July 11th, 2004 at 9:29 am
From one Dawn to another
I love this idea. I haven’t posted much on the listserve because…well….because. I am already not going to Nationals and the CC crap is just icing on the cake.
What would we have to do to get this idea started? Write a press release? Get the PSI community to finally take a stand on something? How many people do we need to get involved to get this off the ground?
I’m willing to fight and do whatever I need to to help this work. Well short of going to St. Lick my ass, since I can’t stand anything these people have done this year for NPS. Anyway. Let’s chat.
July 11th, 2004 at 9:29 am
From one Dawn to another
I love this idea. I haven’t posted much on the listserve because…well….because. I am already not going to Nationals and the CC crap is just icing on the cake.
What would we have to do to get this idea started? Write a press release? Get the PSI community to finally take a stand on something? How many people do we need to get involved to get this off the ground?
I’m willing to fight and do whatever I need to to help this work. Well short of going to St. Lick my ass, since I can’t stand anything these people have done this year for NPS. Anyway. Let’s chat.
July 11th, 2004 at 6:27 am
It’s Dawn Gabriel.
July 11th, 2004 at 6:27 am
It’s Dawn Gabriel.
July 11th, 2004 at 6:27 am
It’s Dawn Gabriel.
July 11th, 2004 at 6:27 am
It’s Dawn Gabriel.
July 11th, 2004 at 5:04 am
Not for Nothing, but,
Tony, I think Worcester is a great place to have an extremely hastily thrown together poetry festival the first two weeks of August. Or perhaps there is a city within a day’s drive of St. Louis that would be willing to do such a thing, since people probably already have plane tickets?
I don’t know, I’m not involved, I’m just sayin’. A bus pulling up to the main venue, and filling up with poets on their way to a different city would be quite a statement.
July 11th, 2004 at 5:04 am
Not for Nothing, but,
Tony, I think Worcester is a great place to have an extremely hastily thrown together poetry festival the first two weeks of August. Or perhaps there is a city within a day’s drive of St. Louis that would be willing to do such a thing, since people probably already have plane tickets?
I don’t know, I’m not involved, I’m just sayin’. A bus pulling up to the main venue, and filling up with poets on their way to a different city would be quite a statement.
July 11th, 2004 at 5:04 am
Not for Nothing, but,
Tony, I think Worcester is a great place to have an extremely hastily thrown together poetry festival the first two weeks of August. Or perhaps there is a city within a day’s drive of St. Louis that would be willing to do such a thing, since people probably already have plane tickets?
I don’t know, I’m not involved, I’m just sayin’. A bus pulling up to the main venue, and filling up with poets on their way to a different city would be quite a statement.
July 11th, 2004 at 5:04 am
Not for Nothing, but,
Tony, I think Worcester is a great place to have an extremely hastily thrown together poetry festival the first two weeks of August. Or perhaps there is a city within a day’s drive of St. Louis that would be willing to do such a thing, since people probably already have plane tickets?
I don’t know, I’m not involved, I’m just sayin’. A bus pulling up to the main venue, and filling up with poets on their way to a different city would be quite a statement.
July 11th, 2004 at 1:28 am
that’s a fantastic idea.
utterly fantastic.
*shakes head* who are you…? i’ve been reading what you’ve been posting on the subject and i’m really glad to be thinking. but i have no name to attach to the userid..
(as a note.. the spots would be 60 seconds.. but the content would still be trash..)
July 11th, 2004 at 1:28 am
that’s a fantastic idea.
utterly fantastic.
*shakes head* who are you…? i’ve been reading what you’ve been posting on the subject and i’m really glad to be thinking. but i have no name to attach to the userid..
(as a note.. the spots would be 60 seconds.. but the content would still be trash..)
July 11th, 2004 at 1:28 am
that’s a fantastic idea.
utterly fantastic.
*shakes head* who are you…? i’ve been reading what you’ve been posting on the subject and i’m really glad to be thinking. but i have no name to attach to the userid..
(as a note.. the spots would be 60 seconds.. but the content would still be trash..)
July 11th, 2004 at 1:28 am
that’s a fantastic idea.
utterly fantastic.
*shakes head* who are you…? i’ve been reading what you’ve been posting on the subject and i’m really glad to be thinking. but i have no name to attach to the userid..
(as a note.. the spots would be 60 seconds.. but the content would still be trash..)
July 9th, 2004 at 10:22 am
snaps
If the community gets behind the press release please let me know so I can inform my local media.
Thanks,
Beverly
Newark, Delaware
July 9th, 2004 at 10:22 am
snaps
If the community gets behind the press release please let me know so I can inform my local media.
Thanks,
Beverly
Newark, Delaware
July 9th, 2004 at 10:22 am
snaps
If the community gets behind the press release please let me know so I can inform my local media.
Thanks,
Beverly
Newark, Delaware
July 9th, 2004 at 10:22 am
snaps
If the community gets behind the press release please let me know so I can inform my local media.
Thanks,
Beverly
Newark, Delaware
July 9th, 2004 at 10:14 am
that’s the best idea i’ve heard so far… then again, i just learned about this whole mess. either way, i still think it’s a great idea.
July 9th, 2004 at 10:14 am
that’s the best idea i’ve heard so far… then again, i just learned about this whole mess. either way, i still think it’s a great idea.
July 9th, 2004 at 10:14 am
that’s the best idea i’ve heard so far… then again, i just learned about this whole mess. either way, i still think it’s a great idea.
July 9th, 2004 at 10:14 am
that’s the best idea i’ve heard so far… then again, i just learned about this whole mess. either way, i still think it’s a great idea.
July 9th, 2004 at 9:46 am
I love this idea!
July 9th, 2004 at 9:46 am
I love this idea!
July 9th, 2004 at 9:46 am
I love this idea!
July 9th, 2004 at 9:46 am
I love this idea!
July 9th, 2004 at 9:14 am
i like
I like this idea a lot. And I think it would have a bigger payoff in the long run, while the CCC thing might pay off better in the short term. I’m speaking as someone on the outside of most slam comm, though. If we run ads on radio–specifically CCC radio, which in Austin is mostly loud commercial tripe that I personally find little regard for–then “our message” becomes part of the cutlureal noise, as you say, on par with discount tires and whatnot. But, if we actively reject the proposition with targetted media responses, we have a chance to make a statement.
Personally, I have far less trouble with RJR than I do with CCC. I think of ClearChannel as the WalMart of the airwaves. I am lucky in that we have a small group of stations that fight them off where possible. It might be interesting to find those stations–those non-CC stations–in your area and let them know that we are protesting (if we are) that deal and why. Perhaps they would be more interested in giving actually free publicity.
Search for CCC stations in your area by entering your city in their search box.
July 9th, 2004 at 9:14 am
i like
I like this idea a lot. And I think it would have a bigger payoff in the long run, while the CCC thing might pay off better in the short term. I’m speaking as someone on the outside of most slam comm, though. If we run ads on radio–specifically CCC radio, which in Austin is mostly loud commercial tripe that I personally find little regard for–then “our message” becomes part of the cutlureal noise, as you say, on par with discount tires and whatnot. But, if we actively reject the proposition with targetted media responses, we have a chance to make a statement.
Personally, I have far less trouble with RJR than I do with CCC. I think of ClearChannel as the WalMart of the airwaves. I am lucky in that we have a small group of stations that fight them off where possible. It might be interesting to find those stations–those non-CC stations–in your area and let them know that we are protesting (if we are) that deal and why. Perhaps they would be more interested in giving actually free publicity.
Search for CCC stations in your area by entering your city in their search box.
July 9th, 2004 at 9:14 am
i like
I like this idea a lot. And I think it would have a bigger payoff in the long run, while the CCC thing might pay off better in the short term. I’m speaking as someone on the outside of most slam comm, though. If we run ads on radio–specifically CCC radio, which in Austin is mostly loud commercial tripe that I personally find little regard for–then “our message” becomes part of the cutlureal noise, as you say, on par with discount tires and whatnot. But, if we actively reject the proposition with targetted media responses, we have a chance to make a statement.
Personally, I have far less trouble with RJR than I do with CCC. I think of ClearChannel as the WalMart of the airwaves. I am lucky in that we have a small group of stations that fight them off where possible. It might be interesting to find those stations–those non-CC stations–in your area and let them know that we are protesting (if we are) that deal and why. Perhaps they would be more interested in giving actually free publicity.
Search for CCC stations in your area by entering your city in their search box.
July 9th, 2004 at 9:14 am
i like
I like this idea a lot. And I think it would have a bigger payoff in the long run, while the CCC thing might pay off better in the short term. I’m speaking as someone on the outside of most slam comm, though. If we run ads on radio–specifically CCC radio, which in Austin is mostly loud commercial tripe that I personally find little regard for–then “our message” becomes part of the cutlureal noise, as you say, on par with discount tires and whatnot. But, if we actively reject the proposition with targetted media responses, we have a chance to make a statement.
Personally, I have far less trouble with RJR than I do with CCC. I think of ClearChannel as the WalMart of the airwaves. I am lucky in that we have a small group of stations that fight them off where possible. It might be interesting to find those stations–those non-CC stations–in your area and let them know that we are protesting (if we are) that deal and why. Perhaps they would be more interested in giving actually free publicity.
Search for CCC stations in your area by entering your city in their search box.
July 9th, 2004 at 7:58 am
will do!
Will you be around tonight? When is a good time to call you?
July 9th, 2004 at 7:58 am
will do!
Will you be around tonight? When is a good time to call you?
July 9th, 2004 at 7:58 am
will do!
Will you be around tonight? When is a good time to call you?
July 9th, 2004 at 7:58 am
will do!
Will you be around tonight? When is a good time to call you?
July 9th, 2004 at 7:57 am
Well, I wasn’t going to say anything, but you DO look more than a little bit… FRENCH… in your icon there, bub. ^_^
July 9th, 2004 at 7:57 am
Well, I wasn’t going to say anything, but you DO look more than a little bit… FRENCH… in your icon there, bub. ^_^
July 9th, 2004 at 7:57 am
Well, I wasn’t going to say anything, but you DO look more than a little bit… FRENCH… in your icon there, bub. ^_^
July 9th, 2004 at 7:57 am
Well, I wasn’t going to say anything, but you DO look more than a little bit… FRENCH… in your icon there, bub. ^_^
July 9th, 2004 at 7:54 am
you are a clever & resourceful girl, you are! sounds like a great idea – i especially like the viral dotcomblog approach to mktg.
(ps – pls. touch base w/ me about the 17th)
July 9th, 2004 at 7:54 am
you are a clever & resourceful girl, you are! sounds like a great idea – i especially like the viral dotcomblog approach to mktg.
(ps – pls. touch base w/ me about the 17th)
July 9th, 2004 at 7:54 am
you are a clever & resourceful girl, you are! sounds like a great idea – i especially like the viral dotcomblog approach to mktg.
(ps – pls. touch base w/ me about the 17th)
July 9th, 2004 at 7:54 am
you are a clever & resourceful girl, you are! sounds like a great idea – i especially like the viral dotcomblog approach to mktg.
(ps – pls. touch base w/ me about the 17th)
July 9th, 2004 at 7:50 am
Yeah! That guy! What a pansy!
July 9th, 2004 at 7:50 am
Yeah! That guy! What a pansy!
July 9th, 2004 at 7:50 am
Yeah! That guy! What a pansy!
July 9th, 2004 at 7:50 am
Yeah! That guy! What a pansy!
July 9th, 2004 at 7:37 am
No comments yet, except for a call from Victor to be level-headed until we learn the details of the deal. That Victor! Eh. I wasn’t up all night.
July 9th, 2004 at 7:37 am
No comments yet, except for a call from Victor to be level-headed until we learn the details of the deal. That Victor! Eh. I wasn’t up all night.
July 9th, 2004 at 7:37 am
No comments yet, except for a call from Victor to be level-headed until we learn the details of the deal. That Victor! Eh. I wasn’t up all night.
July 9th, 2004 at 7:37 am
No comments yet, except for a call from Victor to be level-headed until we learn the details of the deal. That Victor! Eh. I wasn’t up all night.
July 9th, 2004 at 7:33 am
There you go.
That one I like. Nice job! How’s it being accepted?
July 9th, 2004 at 7:33 am
There you go.
That one I like. Nice job! How’s it being accepted?
July 9th, 2004 at 7:33 am
There you go.
That one I like. Nice job! How’s it being accepted?
July 9th, 2004 at 7:33 am
There you go.
That one I like. Nice job! How’s it being accepted?
July 9th, 2004 at 6:59 am
[cut&pasted]
My line of thinking goes like this:
It’s great that we have a committee working on ways to preserve our
ideals as we pursue sponsorship, but how can the current problem be
solved in a way that we, as a community, can maintain our values and
not lose out on the valuable publicity?
This is my very vague, uninformed idea. I’m not a publicity maven, so
it’s quite likely to be flawed. What if we overwhelmingly demand that
St Louis cut out Clear Channel, then send a targeted press release to
sympathetic media outlets — Salon.com, The Howard Stern Show, Mother
Jones, etc. — explaining that we, as poets, cannot accept money from
a corporation that actively censors free speech, and has engaged in a
number of other egregious activities. In the press release, we make
it obvious that we have rejected a six-figure deal because the
company’s policies are so odious.
Is it possible that the press coming out of that kind of thing would
be approaching, equal to, or greater than the publicity we would get
if we were complicit? And wouldn’t that press be more targeted &
interesting, rather than a loud 10 second blast of whatever sandwiched between an ad for discount tires and the latest Justin Timberlake single?
Just a thought.
July 9th, 2004 at 6:59 am
[cut&pasted]
My line of thinking goes like this:
It’s great that we have a committee working on ways to preserve our
ideals as we pursue sponsorship, but how can the current problem be
solved in a way that we, as a community, can maintain our values and
not lose out on the valuable publicity?
This is my very vague, uninformed idea. I’m not a publicity maven, so
it’s quite likely to be flawed. What if we overwhelmingly demand that
St Louis cut out Clear Channel, then send a targeted press release to
sympathetic media outlets — Salon.com, The Howard Stern Show, Mother
Jones, etc. — explaining that we, as poets, cannot accept money from
a corporation that actively censors free speech, and has engaged in a
number of other egregious activities. In the press release, we make
it obvious that we have rejected a six-figure deal because the
company’s policies are so odious.
Is it possible that the press coming out of that kind of thing would
be approaching, equal to, or greater than the publicity we would get
if we were complicit? And wouldn’t that press be more targeted &
interesting, rather than a loud 10 second blast of whatever sandwiched between an ad for discount tires and the latest Justin Timberlake single?
Just a thought.
July 9th, 2004 at 6:59 am
[cut&pasted]
My line of thinking goes like this:
It’s great that we have a committee working on ways to preserve our
ideals as we pursue sponsorship, but how can the current problem be
solved in a way that we, as a community, can maintain our values and
not lose out on the valuable publicity?
This is my very vague, uninformed idea. I’m not a publicity maven, so
it’s quite likely to be flawed. What if we overwhelmingly demand that
St Louis cut out Clear Channel, then send a targeted press release to
sympathetic media outlets — Salon.com, The Howard Stern Show, Mother
Jones, etc. — explaining that we, as poets, cannot accept money from
a corporation that actively censors free speech, and has engaged in a
number of other egregious activities. In the press release, we make
it obvious that we have rejected a six-figure deal because the
company’s policies are so odious.
Is it possible that the press coming out of that kind of thing would
be approaching, equal to, or greater than the publicity we would get
if we were complicit? And wouldn’t that press be more targeted &
interesting, rather than a loud 10 second blast of whatever sandwiched between an ad for discount tires and the latest Justin Timberlake single?
Just a thought.
July 9th, 2004 at 6:59 am
[cut&pasted]
My line of thinking goes like this:
It’s great that we have a committee working on ways to preserve our
ideals as we pursue sponsorship, but how can the current problem be
solved in a way that we, as a community, can maintain our values and
not lose out on the valuable publicity?
This is my very vague, uninformed idea. I’m not a publicity maven, so
it’s quite likely to be flawed. What if we overwhelmingly demand that
St Louis cut out Clear Channel, then send a targeted press release to
sympathetic media outlets — Salon.com, The Howard Stern Show, Mother
Jones, etc. — explaining that we, as poets, cannot accept money from
a corporation that actively censors free speech, and has engaged in a
number of other egregious activities. In the press release, we make
it obvious that we have rejected a six-figure deal because the
company’s policies are so odious.
Is it possible that the press coming out of that kind of thing would
be approaching, equal to, or greater than the publicity we would get
if we were complicit? And wouldn’t that press be more targeted &
interesting, rather than a loud 10 second blast of whatever sandwiched between an ad for discount tires and the latest Justin Timberlake single?
Just a thought.
July 9th, 2004 at 6:54 am
Oh, yes. I bet a lot of folks want something like a solution. 😉
July 9th, 2004 at 6:54 am
Oh, yes. I bet a lot of folks want something like a solution. 😉
July 9th, 2004 at 6:54 am
Oh, yes. I bet a lot of folks want something like a solution. 😉
July 9th, 2004 at 6:54 am
Oh, yes. I bet a lot of folks want something like a solution. 😉
July 9th, 2004 at 6:53 am
Are you still avoiding the list? I just posted a proposal for dealing with the Clear Channel debacle, and I wanna hear your thoughts. It’s short-ish, if you’d like me to recap here.
July 9th, 2004 at 6:53 am
Are you still avoiding the list? I just posted a proposal for dealing with the Clear Channel debacle, and I wanna hear your thoughts. It’s short-ish, if you’d like me to recap here.
July 9th, 2004 at 6:53 am
Are you still avoiding the list? I just posted a proposal for dealing with the Clear Channel debacle, and I wanna hear your thoughts. It’s short-ish, if you’d like me to recap here.
July 9th, 2004 at 6:53 am
Are you still avoiding the list? I just posted a proposal for dealing with the Clear Channel debacle, and I wanna hear your thoughts. It’s short-ish, if you’d like me to recap here.