For all you Kerry fans out there:
Explain, to me and to yourselves, how you were so wrong in your estimates of the election.
I suspect you will find some clues to the loss there.
+++++++++++++++++++
EDIT: This shouldn’t be an exercise in self-flagellation, by the way…more a start at learning from mistakes.
Dark Matter 
November 3rd, 2004 at 6:38 pm
Re: My Answer
me, I’m the kinda sucker that never gives up.
ran over, dead again, but still waving the sword
and swiping at soul suckers
I don’t know if it’s optimism
or boredom, cross bred
with the western myth of the outsider
November 3rd, 2004 at 6:38 pm
Re: My Answer
me, I’m the kinda sucker that never gives up.
ran over, dead again, but still waving the sword
and swiping at soul suckers
I don’t know if it’s optimism
or boredom, cross bred
with the western myth of the outsider
November 3rd, 2004 at 6:38 pm
Re: My Answer
me, I’m the kinda sucker that never gives up.
ran over, dead again, but still waving the sword
and swiping at soul suckers
I don’t know if it’s optimism
or boredom, cross bred
with the western myth of the outsider
November 3rd, 2004 at 6:38 pm
Re: My Answer
me, I’m the kinda sucker that never gives up.
ran over, dead again, but still waving the sword
and swiping at soul suckers
I don’t know if it’s optimism
or boredom, cross bred
with the western myth of the outsider
November 3rd, 2004 at 6:38 pm
Re: My Answer
me, I’m the kinda sucker that never gives up.
ran over, dead again, but still waving the sword
and swiping at soul suckers
I don’t know if it’s optimism
or boredom, cross bred
with the western myth of the outsider
November 3rd, 2004 at 6:38 pm
Re: My Answer
me, I’m the kinda sucker that never gives up.
ran over, dead again, but still waving the sword
and swiping at soul suckers
I don’t know if it’s optimism
or boredom, cross bred
with the western myth of the outsider
November 3rd, 2004 at 6:38 pm
Re: My Answer
me, I’m the kinda sucker that never gives up.
ran over, dead again, but still waving the sword
and swiping at soul suckers
I don’t know if it’s optimism
or boredom, cross bred
with the western myth of the outsider
November 3rd, 2004 at 6:38 pm
Re: My Answer
me, I’m the kinda sucker that never gives up.
ran over, dead again, but still waving the sword
and swiping at soul suckers
I don’t know if it’s optimism
or boredom, cross bred
with the western myth of the outsider
November 3rd, 2004 at 5:01 pm
My Answer
I’m disgustingly optimistic and still harbor a belief that the world is ultimately fair.
I know….
November 3rd, 2004 at 5:01 pm
My Answer
I’m disgustingly optimistic and still harbor a belief that the world is ultimately fair.
I know….
November 3rd, 2004 at 5:01 pm
My Answer
I’m disgustingly optimistic and still harbor a belief that the world is ultimately fair.
I know….
November 3rd, 2004 at 5:01 pm
My Answer
I’m disgustingly optimistic and still harbor a belief that the world is ultimately fair.
I know….
November 3rd, 2004 at 5:01 pm
My Answer
I’m disgustingly optimistic and still harbor a belief that the world is ultimately fair.
I know….
November 3rd, 2004 at 5:01 pm
My Answer
I’m disgustingly optimistic and still harbor a belief that the world is ultimately fair.
I know….
November 3rd, 2004 at 5:01 pm
My Answer
I’m disgustingly optimistic and still harbor a belief that the world is ultimately fair.
I know….
November 3rd, 2004 at 5:01 pm
My Answer
I’m disgustingly optimistic and still harbor a belief that the world is ultimately fair.
I know….
November 3rd, 2004 at 4:19 pm
I chose to temporarily forget that half of Americans are idiots.
According to some news source (CNN or MSNBC, forget which), 25% of Bush’s vote this time around were Evangelical Christians. With these people, there is ONE issue that overrides all other issues, problems, mishandlings, and lies: abortion. Abortion is murder to them, it must be stopped. So they vote for the guy who will elect a judge soon that will eradicate the legality of abortion. Never mind that the same guy has given orders that have murdered over 1100 real-life, once-breathing Americans, and tens of thousands of real-life, once-breathing Arabs, for no good reason.
November 3rd, 2004 at 4:19 pm
I chose to temporarily forget that half of Americans are idiots.
According to some news source (CNN or MSNBC, forget which), 25% of Bush’s vote this time around were Evangelical Christians. With these people, there is ONE issue that overrides all other issues, problems, mishandlings, and lies: abortion. Abortion is murder to them, it must be stopped. So they vote for the guy who will elect a judge soon that will eradicate the legality of abortion. Never mind that the same guy has given orders that have murdered over 1100 real-life, once-breathing Americans, and tens of thousands of real-life, once-breathing Arabs, for no good reason.
November 3rd, 2004 at 4:19 pm
I chose to temporarily forget that half of Americans are idiots.
According to some news source (CNN or MSNBC, forget which), 25% of Bush’s vote this time around were Evangelical Christians. With these people, there is ONE issue that overrides all other issues, problems, mishandlings, and lies: abortion. Abortion is murder to them, it must be stopped. So they vote for the guy who will elect a judge soon that will eradicate the legality of abortion. Never mind that the same guy has given orders that have murdered over 1100 real-life, once-breathing Americans, and tens of thousands of real-life, once-breathing Arabs, for no good reason.
November 3rd, 2004 at 4:19 pm
I chose to temporarily forget that half of Americans are idiots.
According to some news source (CNN or MSNBC, forget which), 25% of Bush’s vote this time around were Evangelical Christians. With these people, there is ONE issue that overrides all other issues, problems, mishandlings, and lies: abortion. Abortion is murder to them, it must be stopped. So they vote for the guy who will elect a judge soon that will eradicate the legality of abortion. Never mind that the same guy has given orders that have murdered over 1100 real-life, once-breathing Americans, and tens of thousands of real-life, once-breathing Arabs, for no good reason.
November 3rd, 2004 at 4:19 pm
I chose to temporarily forget that half of Americans are idiots.
According to some news source (CNN or MSNBC, forget which), 25% of Bush’s vote this time around were Evangelical Christians. With these people, there is ONE issue that overrides all other issues, problems, mishandlings, and lies: abortion. Abortion is murder to them, it must be stopped. So they vote for the guy who will elect a judge soon that will eradicate the legality of abortion. Never mind that the same guy has given orders that have murdered over 1100 real-life, once-breathing Americans, and tens of thousands of real-life, once-breathing Arabs, for no good reason.
November 3rd, 2004 at 4:19 pm
I chose to temporarily forget that half of Americans are idiots.
According to some news source (CNN or MSNBC, forget which), 25% of Bush’s vote this time around were Evangelical Christians. With these people, there is ONE issue that overrides all other issues, problems, mishandlings, and lies: abortion. Abortion is murder to them, it must be stopped. So they vote for the guy who will elect a judge soon that will eradicate the legality of abortion. Never mind that the same guy has given orders that have murdered over 1100 real-life, once-breathing Americans, and tens of thousands of real-life, once-breathing Arabs, for no good reason.
November 3rd, 2004 at 4:19 pm
I chose to temporarily forget that half of Americans are idiots.
According to some news source (CNN or MSNBC, forget which), 25% of Bush’s vote this time around were Evangelical Christians. With these people, there is ONE issue that overrides all other issues, problems, mishandlings, and lies: abortion. Abortion is murder to them, it must be stopped. So they vote for the guy who will elect a judge soon that will eradicate the legality of abortion. Never mind that the same guy has given orders that have murdered over 1100 real-life, once-breathing Americans, and tens of thousands of real-life, once-breathing Arabs, for no good reason.
November 3rd, 2004 at 4:19 pm
I chose to temporarily forget that half of Americans are idiots.
According to some news source (CNN or MSNBC, forget which), 25% of Bush’s vote this time around were Evangelical Christians. With these people, there is ONE issue that overrides all other issues, problems, mishandlings, and lies: abortion. Abortion is murder to them, it must be stopped. So they vote for the guy who will elect a judge soon that will eradicate the legality of abortion. Never mind that the same guy has given orders that have murdered over 1100 real-life, once-breathing Americans, and tens of thousands of real-life, once-breathing Arabs, for no good reason.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:25 pm
I had too much faith in humanity. I thought that underneath it all, people had changed. I thought the “dumb south” was just a stereotype. I thought that just because we were so clearly right that we would have to win. I think everyone thought this was a fairy tale and that truth and justice would triumph.
I had too much faith.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:25 pm
I had too much faith in humanity. I thought that underneath it all, people had changed. I thought the “dumb south” was just a stereotype. I thought that just because we were so clearly right that we would have to win. I think everyone thought this was a fairy tale and that truth and justice would triumph.
I had too much faith.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:25 pm
I had too much faith in humanity. I thought that underneath it all, people had changed. I thought the “dumb south” was just a stereotype. I thought that just because we were so clearly right that we would have to win. I think everyone thought this was a fairy tale and that truth and justice would triumph.
I had too much faith.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:25 pm
I had too much faith in humanity. I thought that underneath it all, people had changed. I thought the “dumb south” was just a stereotype. I thought that just because we were so clearly right that we would have to win. I think everyone thought this was a fairy tale and that truth and justice would triumph.
I had too much faith.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:25 pm
I had too much faith in humanity. I thought that underneath it all, people had changed. I thought the “dumb south” was just a stereotype. I thought that just because we were so clearly right that we would have to win. I think everyone thought this was a fairy tale and that truth and justice would triumph.
I had too much faith.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:25 pm
I had too much faith in humanity. I thought that underneath it all, people had changed. I thought the “dumb south” was just a stereotype. I thought that just because we were so clearly right that we would have to win. I think everyone thought this was a fairy tale and that truth and justice would triumph.
I had too much faith.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:25 pm
I had too much faith in humanity. I thought that underneath it all, people had changed. I thought the “dumb south” was just a stereotype. I thought that just because we were so clearly right that we would have to win. I think everyone thought this was a fairy tale and that truth and justice would triumph.
I had too much faith.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:25 pm
I had too much faith in humanity. I thought that underneath it all, people had changed. I thought the “dumb south” was just a stereotype. I thought that just because we were so clearly right that we would have to win. I think everyone thought this was a fairy tale and that truth and justice would triumph.
I had too much faith.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:01 pm
uh…
well then. see.
lol. I’m cogent, i swear.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:01 pm
uh…
well then. see.
lol. I’m cogent, i swear.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:01 pm
uh…
well then. see.
lol. I’m cogent, i swear.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:01 pm
uh…
well then. see.
lol. I’m cogent, i swear.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:01 pm
uh…
well then. see.
lol. I’m cogent, i swear.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:01 pm
uh…
well then. see.
lol. I’m cogent, i swear.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:01 pm
uh…
well then. see.
lol. I’m cogent, i swear.
November 3rd, 2004 at 2:01 pm
uh…
well then. see.
lol. I’m cogent, i swear.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:49 pm
I was referring to Victor’s comment re: how the GOP used issues vs how the dems did. I agreed with his points. Wasn’t trying to confuse.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:49 pm
I was referring to Victor’s comment re: how the GOP used issues vs how the dems did. I agreed with his points. Wasn’t trying to confuse.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:49 pm
I was referring to Victor’s comment re: how the GOP used issues vs how the dems did. I agreed with his points. Wasn’t trying to confuse.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:49 pm
I was referring to Victor’s comment re: how the GOP used issues vs how the dems did. I agreed with his points. Wasn’t trying to confuse.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:49 pm
I was referring to Victor’s comment re: how the GOP used issues vs how the dems did. I agreed with his points. Wasn’t trying to confuse.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:49 pm
I was referring to Victor’s comment re: how the GOP used issues vs how the dems did. I agreed with his points. Wasn’t trying to confuse.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:49 pm
I was referring to Victor’s comment re: how the GOP used issues vs how the dems did. I agreed with his points. Wasn’t trying to confuse.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:49 pm
I was referring to Victor’s comment re: how the GOP used issues vs how the dems did. I agreed with his points. Wasn’t trying to confuse.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:32 pm
which really, makes my point…. unless you were referring to the thread as a whole….
*confused*
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:32 pm
which really, makes my point…. unless you were referring to the thread as a whole….
*confused*
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:32 pm
which really, makes my point…. unless you were referring to the thread as a whole….
*confused*
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:32 pm
which really, makes my point…. unless you were referring to the thread as a whole….
*confused*
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:32 pm
which really, makes my point…. unless you were referring to the thread as a whole….
*confused*
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:32 pm
which really, makes my point…. unless you were referring to the thread as a whole….
*confused*
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:32 pm
which really, makes my point…. unless you were referring to the thread as a whole….
*confused*
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:32 pm
which really, makes my point…. unless you were referring to the thread as a whole….
*confused*
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:05 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Good to hear from you again, Bill!
“We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?”
I know, but it seems, this time, there was a greater effort for “getting out to vote”. It didn’t work this time,
but that just means we start working on 2008 now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:05 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Good to hear from you again, Bill!
“We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?”
I know, but it seems, this time, there was a greater effort for “getting out to vote”. It didn’t work this time,
but that just means we start working on 2008 now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:05 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Good to hear from you again, Bill!
“We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?”
I know, but it seems, this time, there was a greater effort for “getting out to vote”. It didn’t work this time,
but that just means we start working on 2008 now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:05 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Good to hear from you again, Bill!
“We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?”
I know, but it seems, this time, there was a greater effort for “getting out to vote”. It didn’t work this time,
but that just means we start working on 2008 now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:05 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Good to hear from you again, Bill!
“We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?”
I know, but it seems, this time, there was a greater effort for “getting out to vote”. It didn’t work this time,
but that just means we start working on 2008 now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:05 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Good to hear from you again, Bill!
“We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?”
I know, but it seems, this time, there was a greater effort for “getting out to vote”. It didn’t work this time,
but that just means we start working on 2008 now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:05 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Good to hear from you again, Bill!
“We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?”
I know, but it seems, this time, there was a greater effort for “getting out to vote”. It didn’t work this time,
but that just means we start working on 2008 now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:05 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Good to hear from you again, Bill!
“We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?”
I know, but it seems, this time, there was a greater effort for “getting out to vote”. It didn’t work this time,
but that just means we start working on 2008 now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You misunderstand me.
Okay! Got it now. Well, I wasn’t one of the optimistic ones. I thought Bush would win, though I indulged in a whisper of hope….
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You misunderstand me.
Okay! Got it now. Well, I wasn’t one of the optimistic ones. I thought Bush would win, though I indulged in a whisper of hope….
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You misunderstand me.
Okay! Got it now. Well, I wasn’t one of the optimistic ones. I thought Bush would win, though I indulged in a whisper of hope….
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You misunderstand me.
Okay! Got it now. Well, I wasn’t one of the optimistic ones. I thought Bush would win, though I indulged in a whisper of hope….
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You misunderstand me.
Okay! Got it now. Well, I wasn’t one of the optimistic ones. I thought Bush would win, though I indulged in a whisper of hope….
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You misunderstand me.
Okay! Got it now. Well, I wasn’t one of the optimistic ones. I thought Bush would win, though I indulged in a whisper of hope….
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You misunderstand me.
Okay! Got it now. Well, I wasn’t one of the optimistic ones. I thought Bush would win, though I indulged in a whisper of hope….
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:04 pm
Re: You misunderstand me.
Okay! Got it now. Well, I wasn’t one of the optimistic ones. I thought Bush would win, though I indulged in a whisper of hope….
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:00 pm
You misunderstand me.
Most of my liberal friends were clearly planning on a Kerry win; predicitng specific electoral vote totals, talking about how the momentum was headed Kerry’s way, etc.
I never bought it for a moment. I felt that there were plenty of indicators that spoke otherwise.
My question is aimed at understanding how people missed those indicators; how the left got so out of touch with the way the country thinks.
I didn’t vote for Kerry, I voted Green. No one respects a principled vote in the face of defeat more than a Green voter.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:00 pm
You misunderstand me.
Most of my liberal friends were clearly planning on a Kerry win; predicitng specific electoral vote totals, talking about how the momentum was headed Kerry’s way, etc.
I never bought it for a moment. I felt that there were plenty of indicators that spoke otherwise.
My question is aimed at understanding how people missed those indicators; how the left got so out of touch with the way the country thinks.
I didn’t vote for Kerry, I voted Green. No one respects a principled vote in the face of defeat more than a Green voter.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:00 pm
You misunderstand me.
Most of my liberal friends were clearly planning on a Kerry win; predicitng specific electoral vote totals, talking about how the momentum was headed Kerry’s way, etc.
I never bought it for a moment. I felt that there were plenty of indicators that spoke otherwise.
My question is aimed at understanding how people missed those indicators; how the left got so out of touch with the way the country thinks.
I didn’t vote for Kerry, I voted Green. No one respects a principled vote in the face of defeat more than a Green voter.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:00 pm
You misunderstand me.
Most of my liberal friends were clearly planning on a Kerry win; predicitng specific electoral vote totals, talking about how the momentum was headed Kerry’s way, etc.
I never bought it for a moment. I felt that there were plenty of indicators that spoke otherwise.
My question is aimed at understanding how people missed those indicators; how the left got so out of touch with the way the country thinks.
I didn’t vote for Kerry, I voted Green. No one respects a principled vote in the face of defeat more than a Green voter.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:00 pm
You misunderstand me.
Most of my liberal friends were clearly planning on a Kerry win; predicitng specific electoral vote totals, talking about how the momentum was headed Kerry’s way, etc.
I never bought it for a moment. I felt that there were plenty of indicators that spoke otherwise.
My question is aimed at understanding how people missed those indicators; how the left got so out of touch with the way the country thinks.
I didn’t vote for Kerry, I voted Green. No one respects a principled vote in the face of defeat more than a Green voter.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:00 pm
You misunderstand me.
Most of my liberal friends were clearly planning on a Kerry win; predicitng specific electoral vote totals, talking about how the momentum was headed Kerry’s way, etc.
I never bought it for a moment. I felt that there were plenty of indicators that spoke otherwise.
My question is aimed at understanding how people missed those indicators; how the left got so out of touch with the way the country thinks.
I didn’t vote for Kerry, I voted Green. No one respects a principled vote in the face of defeat more than a Green voter.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:00 pm
You misunderstand me.
Most of my liberal friends were clearly planning on a Kerry win; predicitng specific electoral vote totals, talking about how the momentum was headed Kerry’s way, etc.
I never bought it for a moment. I felt that there were plenty of indicators that spoke otherwise.
My question is aimed at understanding how people missed those indicators; how the left got so out of touch with the way the country thinks.
I didn’t vote for Kerry, I voted Green. No one respects a principled vote in the face of defeat more than a Green voter.
November 3rd, 2004 at 1:00 pm
You misunderstand me.
Most of my liberal friends were clearly planning on a Kerry win; predicitng specific electoral vote totals, talking about how the momentum was headed Kerry’s way, etc.
I never bought it for a moment. I felt that there were plenty of indicators that spoke otherwise.
My question is aimed at understanding how people missed those indicators; how the left got so out of touch with the way the country thinks.
I didn’t vote for Kerry, I voted Green. No one respects a principled vote in the face of defeat more than a Green voter.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:54 pm
hope
>>Explain, to me and to yourselves, how you were so wrong in your estimates of the election.
I wasn’t wrong in my estimates in this election. I didn’t think Kerry would win. But I voted for him because I believed him to be the better candidate.
Are you suggesting that I should have voted for the person I thought would win? I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.
There was no way to predict the outcome, no way to predict how many voting irregularities would occur, or predict how people would respond to a campaign that played on fear and homophobia. But even if I had known the outcome before the election, even if I’d known that Bush was going to win no matter what, I would still never have voted for him. And I would not *not* vote. Voting is my right, and I will always vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:54 pm
hope
>>Explain, to me and to yourselves, how you were so wrong in your estimates of the election.
I wasn’t wrong in my estimates in this election. I didn’t think Kerry would win. But I voted for him because I believed him to be the better candidate.
Are you suggesting that I should have voted for the person I thought would win? I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.
There was no way to predict the outcome, no way to predict how many voting irregularities would occur, or predict how people would respond to a campaign that played on fear and homophobia. But even if I had known the outcome before the election, even if I’d known that Bush was going to win no matter what, I would still never have voted for him. And I would not *not* vote. Voting is my right, and I will always vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:54 pm
hope
>>Explain, to me and to yourselves, how you were so wrong in your estimates of the election.
I wasn’t wrong in my estimates in this election. I didn’t think Kerry would win. But I voted for him because I believed him to be the better candidate.
Are you suggesting that I should have voted for the person I thought would win? I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.
There was no way to predict the outcome, no way to predict how many voting irregularities would occur, or predict how people would respond to a campaign that played on fear and homophobia. But even if I had known the outcome before the election, even if I’d known that Bush was going to win no matter what, I would still never have voted for him. And I would not *not* vote. Voting is my right, and I will always vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:54 pm
hope
>>Explain, to me and to yourselves, how you were so wrong in your estimates of the election.
I wasn’t wrong in my estimates in this election. I didn’t think Kerry would win. But I voted for him because I believed him to be the better candidate.
Are you suggesting that I should have voted for the person I thought would win? I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.
There was no way to predict the outcome, no way to predict how many voting irregularities would occur, or predict how people would respond to a campaign that played on fear and homophobia. But even if I had known the outcome before the election, even if I’d known that Bush was going to win no matter what, I would still never have voted for him. And I would not *not* vote. Voting is my right, and I will always vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:54 pm
hope
>>Explain, to me and to yourselves, how you were so wrong in your estimates of the election.
I wasn’t wrong in my estimates in this election. I didn’t think Kerry would win. But I voted for him because I believed him to be the better candidate.
Are you suggesting that I should have voted for the person I thought would win? I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.
There was no way to predict the outcome, no way to predict how many voting irregularities would occur, or predict how people would respond to a campaign that played on fear and homophobia. But even if I had known the outcome before the election, even if I’d known that Bush was going to win no matter what, I would still never have voted for him. And I would not *not* vote. Voting is my right, and I will always vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:54 pm
hope
>>Explain, to me and to yourselves, how you were so wrong in your estimates of the election.
I wasn’t wrong in my estimates in this election. I didn’t think Kerry would win. But I voted for him because I believed him to be the better candidate.
Are you suggesting that I should have voted for the person I thought would win? I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.
There was no way to predict the outcome, no way to predict how many voting irregularities would occur, or predict how people would respond to a campaign that played on fear and homophobia. But even if I had known the outcome before the election, even if I’d known that Bush was going to win no matter what, I would still never have voted for him. And I would not *not* vote. Voting is my right, and I will always vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:54 pm
hope
>>Explain, to me and to yourselves, how you were so wrong in your estimates of the election.
I wasn’t wrong in my estimates in this election. I didn’t think Kerry would win. But I voted for him because I believed him to be the better candidate.
Are you suggesting that I should have voted for the person I thought would win? I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.
There was no way to predict the outcome, no way to predict how many voting irregularities would occur, or predict how people would respond to a campaign that played on fear and homophobia. But even if I had known the outcome before the election, even if I’d known that Bush was going to win no matter what, I would still never have voted for him. And I would not *not* vote. Voting is my right, and I will always vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:54 pm
hope
>>Explain, to me and to yourselves, how you were so wrong in your estimates of the election.
I wasn’t wrong in my estimates in this election. I didn’t think Kerry would win. But I voted for him because I believed him to be the better candidate.
Are you suggesting that I should have voted for the person I thought would win? I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.
There was no way to predict the outcome, no way to predict how many voting irregularities would occur, or predict how people would respond to a campaign that played on fear and homophobia. But even if I had known the outcome before the election, even if I’d known that Bush was going to win no matter what, I would still never have voted for him. And I would not *not* vote. Voting is my right, and I will always vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:48 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?
Btw, Ryk, I know you from a feature you did in Johnson City, TN, several years ago at the Slam. You gave me a copy of “Pourquoi Je Suis Un Monstre” after I bought your “Son of…” Thought I’d say hi.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:48 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?
Btw, Ryk, I know you from a feature you did in Johnson City, TN, several years ago at the Slam. You gave me a copy of “Pourquoi Je Suis Un Monstre” after I bought your “Son of…” Thought I’d say hi.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:48 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?
Btw, Ryk, I know you from a feature you did in Johnson City, TN, several years ago at the Slam. You gave me a copy of “Pourquoi Je Suis Un Monstre” after I bought your “Son of…” Thought I’d say hi.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:48 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?
Btw, Ryk, I know you from a feature you did in Johnson City, TN, several years ago at the Slam. You gave me a copy of “Pourquoi Je Suis Un Monstre” after I bought your “Son of…” Thought I’d say hi.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:48 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?
Btw, Ryk, I know you from a feature you did in Johnson City, TN, several years ago at the Slam. You gave me a copy of “Pourquoi Je Suis Un Monstre” after I bought your “Son of…” Thought I’d say hi.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:48 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?
Btw, Ryk, I know you from a feature you did in Johnson City, TN, several years ago at the Slam. You gave me a copy of “Pourquoi Je Suis Un Monstre” after I bought your “Son of…” Thought I’d say hi.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:48 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?
Btw, Ryk, I know you from a feature you did in Johnson City, TN, several years ago at the Slam. You gave me a copy of “Pourquoi Je Suis Un Monstre” after I bought your “Son of…” Thought I’d say hi.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:48 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
We say that every time, and the dems never listen. Why should we expect them to this time?
Btw, Ryk, I know you from a feature you did in Johnson City, TN, several years ago at the Slam. You gave me a copy of “Pourquoi Je Suis Un Monstre” after I bought your “Son of…” Thought I’d say hi.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:33 pm
Agreed on all points.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:33 pm
Agreed on all points.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:33 pm
Agreed on all points.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:33 pm
Agreed on all points.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:33 pm
Agreed on all points.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:33 pm
Agreed on all points.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:33 pm
Agreed on all points.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:33 pm
Agreed on all points.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:22 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Nope. Guy from NYC. 🙂
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:22 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Nope. Guy from NYC. 🙂
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:22 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Nope. Guy from NYC. 🙂
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:22 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Nope. Guy from NYC. 🙂
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:22 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Nope. Guy from NYC. 🙂
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:22 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Nope. Guy from NYC. 🙂
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:22 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Nope. Guy from NYC. 🙂
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:22 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Nope. Guy from NYC. 🙂
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:17 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
is this who i think it is?
were you on the Providence Slam Team this year?
p.s.
amen to the bringing down of the Dem side of the one-party system.
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:17 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
is this who i think it is?
were you on the Providence Slam Team this year?
p.s.
amen to the bringing down of the Dem side of the one-party system.
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:17 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
is this who i think it is?
were you on the Providence Slam Team this year?
p.s.
amen to the bringing down of the Dem side of the one-party system.
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:17 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
is this who i think it is?
were you on the Providence Slam Team this year?
p.s.
amen to the bringing down of the Dem side of the one-party system.
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:17 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
is this who i think it is?
were you on the Providence Slam Team this year?
p.s.
amen to the bringing down of the Dem side of the one-party system.
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:17 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
is this who i think it is?
were you on the Providence Slam Team this year?
p.s.
amen to the bringing down of the Dem side of the one-party system.
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:17 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
is this who i think it is?
were you on the Providence Slam Team this year?
p.s.
amen to the bringing down of the Dem side of the one-party system.
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:17 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
is this who i think it is?
were you on the Providence Slam Team this year?
p.s.
amen to the bringing down of the Dem side of the one-party system.
It’s time for some serious political re-thinking
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:13 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It wasn’t just Kerry that lost. He took the entire Democratic Party down with him.
And that may be the only good thing to come out of this election.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:13 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It wasn’t just Kerry that lost. He took the entire Democratic Party down with him.
And that may be the only good thing to come out of this election.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:13 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It wasn’t just Kerry that lost. He took the entire Democratic Party down with him.
And that may be the only good thing to come out of this election.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:13 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It wasn’t just Kerry that lost. He took the entire Democratic Party down with him.
And that may be the only good thing to come out of this election.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:13 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It wasn’t just Kerry that lost. He took the entire Democratic Party down with him.
And that may be the only good thing to come out of this election.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:13 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It wasn’t just Kerry that lost. He took the entire Democratic Party down with him.
And that may be the only good thing to come out of this election.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:13 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It wasn’t just Kerry that lost. He took the entire Democratic Party down with him.
And that may be the only good thing to come out of this election.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:13 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
It wasn’t just Kerry that lost. He took the entire Democratic Party down with him.
And that may be the only good thing to come out of this election.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:10 pm
I made no estimates:
I just voted w/my conscience.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:10 pm
I made no estimates:
I just voted w/my conscience.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:10 pm
I made no estimates:
I just voted w/my conscience.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:10 pm
I made no estimates:
I just voted w/my conscience.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:10 pm
I made no estimates:
I just voted w/my conscience.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:10 pm
I made no estimates:
I just voted w/my conscience.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:10 pm
I made no estimates:
I just voted w/my conscience.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:10 pm
I made no estimates:
I just voted w/my conscience.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:04 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Except, of course, that it’s actually a decline in the margin since 2000, when Gore won the popular vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:04 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Except, of course, that it’s actually a decline in the margin since 2000, when Gore won the popular vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:04 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Except, of course, that it’s actually a decline in the margin since 2000, when Gore won the popular vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:04 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Except, of course, that it’s actually a decline in the margin since 2000, when Gore won the popular vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:04 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Except, of course, that it’s actually a decline in the margin since 2000, when Gore won the popular vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:04 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Except, of course, that it’s actually a decline in the margin since 2000, when Gore won the popular vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:04 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Except, of course, that it’s actually a decline in the margin since 2000, when Gore won the popular vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:04 pm
Re: Kerry may have lost
Except, of course, that it’s actually a decline in the margin since 2000, when Gore won the popular vote.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:00 pm
Kerry may have lost
but he did by a small margin and we really got out this time to vote. If we keep this up, next time, more people will vote with reality and our side will win.
The Right has been very active, organizing and grass-rootsing, for many decades while the Left just whined and felt smarter. This time we tried and it was closer. Next time we can win.
We need to stay in motion and work for 2008.
Starting now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:00 pm
Kerry may have lost
but he did by a small margin and we really got out this time to vote. If we keep this up, next time, more people will vote with reality and our side will win.
The Right has been very active, organizing and grass-rootsing, for many decades while the Left just whined and felt smarter. This time we tried and it was closer. Next time we can win.
We need to stay in motion and work for 2008.
Starting now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:00 pm
Kerry may have lost
but he did by a small margin and we really got out this time to vote. If we keep this up, next time, more people will vote with reality and our side will win.
The Right has been very active, organizing and grass-rootsing, for many decades while the Left just whined and felt smarter. This time we tried and it was closer. Next time we can win.
We need to stay in motion and work for 2008.
Starting now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:00 pm
Kerry may have lost
but he did by a small margin and we really got out this time to vote. If we keep this up, next time, more people will vote with reality and our side will win.
The Right has been very active, organizing and grass-rootsing, for many decades while the Left just whined and felt smarter. This time we tried and it was closer. Next time we can win.
We need to stay in motion and work for 2008.
Starting now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:00 pm
Kerry may have lost
but he did by a small margin and we really got out this time to vote. If we keep this up, next time, more people will vote with reality and our side will win.
The Right has been very active, organizing and grass-rootsing, for many decades while the Left just whined and felt smarter. This time we tried and it was closer. Next time we can win.
We need to stay in motion and work for 2008.
Starting now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:00 pm
Kerry may have lost
but he did by a small margin and we really got out this time to vote. If we keep this up, next time, more people will vote with reality and our side will win.
The Right has been very active, organizing and grass-rootsing, for many decades while the Left just whined and felt smarter. This time we tried and it was closer. Next time we can win.
We need to stay in motion and work for 2008.
Starting now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:00 pm
Kerry may have lost
but he did by a small margin and we really got out this time to vote. If we keep this up, next time, more people will vote with reality and our side will win.
The Right has been very active, organizing and grass-rootsing, for many decades while the Left just whined and felt smarter. This time we tried and it was closer. Next time we can win.
We need to stay in motion and work for 2008.
Starting now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 12:00 pm
Kerry may have lost
but he did by a small margin and we really got out this time to vote. If we keep this up, next time, more people will vote with reality and our side will win.
The Right has been very active, organizing and grass-rootsing, for many decades while the Left just whined and felt smarter. This time we tried and it was closer. Next time we can win.
We need to stay in motion and work for 2008.
Starting now.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:56 am
edited for redundancy
How was I Wrong?
2000 was a close race. This was a close race. The polls were usually spilt.
There is nothing wrong with hope.
I think, everyone knew it would be a close race. Everyone on my side of the 50/50 hoped Kerry would win.
There is a divide in the electorate with the leanings towards a Bush philosophy and values.
I don’t feel wrong, just in a minority, but I haven’t lost hope either.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:56 am
edited for redundancy
How was I Wrong?
2000 was a close race. This was a close race. The polls were usually spilt.
There is nothing wrong with hope.
I think, everyone knew it would be a close race. Everyone on my side of the 50/50 hoped Kerry would win.
There is a divide in the electorate with the leanings towards a Bush philosophy and values.
I don’t feel wrong, just in a minority, but I haven’t lost hope either.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:56 am
edited for redundancy
How was I Wrong?
2000 was a close race. This was a close race. The polls were usually spilt.
There is nothing wrong with hope.
I think, everyone knew it would be a close race. Everyone on my side of the 50/50 hoped Kerry would win.
There is a divide in the electorate with the leanings towards a Bush philosophy and values.
I don’t feel wrong, just in a minority, but I haven’t lost hope either.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:56 am
edited for redundancy
How was I Wrong?
2000 was a close race. This was a close race. The polls were usually spilt.
There is nothing wrong with hope.
I think, everyone knew it would be a close race. Everyone on my side of the 50/50 hoped Kerry would win.
There is a divide in the electorate with the leanings towards a Bush philosophy and values.
I don’t feel wrong, just in a minority, but I haven’t lost hope either.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:56 am
edited for redundancy
How was I Wrong?
2000 was a close race. This was a close race. The polls were usually spilt.
There is nothing wrong with hope.
I think, everyone knew it would be a close race. Everyone on my side of the 50/50 hoped Kerry would win.
There is a divide in the electorate with the leanings towards a Bush philosophy and values.
I don’t feel wrong, just in a minority, but I haven’t lost hope either.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:56 am
edited for redundancy
How was I Wrong?
2000 was a close race. This was a close race. The polls were usually spilt.
There is nothing wrong with hope.
I think, everyone knew it would be a close race. Everyone on my side of the 50/50 hoped Kerry would win.
There is a divide in the electorate with the leanings towards a Bush philosophy and values.
I don’t feel wrong, just in a minority, but I haven’t lost hope either.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:56 am
edited for redundancy
How was I Wrong?
2000 was a close race. This was a close race. The polls were usually spilt.
There is nothing wrong with hope.
I think, everyone knew it would be a close race. Everyone on my side of the 50/50 hoped Kerry would win.
There is a divide in the electorate with the leanings towards a Bush philosophy and values.
I don’t feel wrong, just in a minority, but I haven’t lost hope either.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:56 am
edited for redundancy
How was I Wrong?
2000 was a close race. This was a close race. The polls were usually spilt.
There is nothing wrong with hope.
I think, everyone knew it would be a close race. Everyone on my side of the 50/50 hoped Kerry would win.
There is a divide in the electorate with the leanings towards a Bush philosophy and values.
I don’t feel wrong, just in a minority, but I haven’t lost hope either.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:51 am
*shrug* If you insist.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:51 am
*shrug* If you insist.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:51 am
*shrug* If you insist.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:51 am
*shrug* If you insist.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:51 am
*shrug* If you insist.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:51 am
*shrug* If you insist.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:51 am
*shrug* If you insist.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:51 am
*shrug* If you insist.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Maybe, but the GOP certainly–some would say cunningly–seized the emotional highground. They claimed “patriotism” and “moral authority” as their own straight away, and then followed that with a systematic stoking of fear and homophobia.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Sort of…
I don’t think Religion or Patriotism had much to do with it.
It was intollerance and fear. We thought we had an answer to the fear – which was to inspire a greater fear (of the draft, of Iraq getting worse, or bin Laden still out there) but we didn’t have an answer to the intollerance for gay marriage.
Turns out we underestimated both issues.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Maybe, but the GOP certainly–some would say cunningly–seized the emotional highground. They claimed “patriotism” and “moral authority” as their own straight away, and then followed that with a systematic stoking of fear and homophobia.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Sort of…
I don’t think Religion or Patriotism had much to do with it.
It was intollerance and fear. We thought we had an answer to the fear – which was to inspire a greater fear (of the draft, of Iraq getting worse, or bin Laden still out there) but we didn’t have an answer to the intollerance for gay marriage.
Turns out we underestimated both issues.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Maybe, but the GOP certainly–some would say cunningly–seized the emotional highground. They claimed “patriotism” and “moral authority” as their own straight away, and then followed that with a systematic stoking of fear and homophobia.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Sort of…
I don’t think Religion or Patriotism had much to do with it.
It was intollerance and fear. We thought we had an answer to the fear – which was to inspire a greater fear (of the draft, of Iraq getting worse, or bin Laden still out there) but we didn’t have an answer to the intollerance for gay marriage.
Turns out we underestimated both issues.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Maybe, but the GOP certainly–some would say cunningly–seized the emotional highground. They claimed “patriotism” and “moral authority” as their own straight away, and then followed that with a systematic stoking of fear and homophobia.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Sort of…
I don’t think Religion or Patriotism had much to do with it.
It was intollerance and fear. We thought we had an answer to the fear – which was to inspire a greater fear (of the draft, of Iraq getting worse, or bin Laden still out there) but we didn’t have an answer to the intollerance for gay marriage.
Turns out we underestimated both issues.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Maybe, but the GOP certainly–some would say cunningly–seized the emotional highground. They claimed “patriotism” and “moral authority” as their own straight away, and then followed that with a systematic stoking of fear and homophobia.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Sort of…
I don’t think Religion or Patriotism had much to do with it.
It was intollerance and fear. We thought we had an answer to the fear – which was to inspire a greater fear (of the draft, of Iraq getting worse, or bin Laden still out there) but we didn’t have an answer to the intollerance for gay marriage.
Turns out we underestimated both issues.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Maybe, but the GOP certainly–some would say cunningly–seized the emotional highground. They claimed “patriotism” and “moral authority” as their own straight away, and then followed that with a systematic stoking of fear and homophobia.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Sort of…
I don’t think Religion or Patriotism had much to do with it.
It was intollerance and fear. We thought we had an answer to the fear – which was to inspire a greater fear (of the draft, of Iraq getting worse, or bin Laden still out there) but we didn’t have an answer to the intollerance for gay marriage.
Turns out we underestimated both issues.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Maybe, but the GOP certainly–some would say cunningly–seized the emotional highground. They claimed “patriotism” and “moral authority” as their own straight away, and then followed that with a systematic stoking of fear and homophobia.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Sort of…
I don’t think Religion or Patriotism had much to do with it.
It was intollerance and fear. We thought we had an answer to the fear – which was to inspire a greater fear (of the draft, of Iraq getting worse, or bin Laden still out there) but we didn’t have an answer to the intollerance for gay marriage.
Turns out we underestimated both issues.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Maybe, but the GOP certainly–some would say cunningly–seized the emotional highground. They claimed “patriotism” and “moral authority” as their own straight away, and then followed that with a systematic stoking of fear and homophobia.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:33 am
Sort of…
I don’t think Religion or Patriotism had much to do with it.
It was intollerance and fear. We thought we had an answer to the fear – which was to inspire a greater fear (of the draft, of Iraq getting worse, or bin Laden still out there) but we didn’t have an answer to the intollerance for gay marriage.
Turns out we underestimated both issues.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:26 am
Or maybe we saw only with our hearts, and forgot that there was infact, intellect on the other side of the great wall of ideology.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:26 am
Or maybe we saw only with our hearts, and forgot that there was infact, intellect on the other side of the great wall of ideology.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:26 am
Or maybe we saw only with our hearts, and forgot that there was infact, intellect on the other side of the great wall of ideology.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:26 am
Or maybe we saw only with our hearts, and forgot that there was infact, intellect on the other side of the great wall of ideology.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:26 am
Or maybe we saw only with our hearts, and forgot that there was infact, intellect on the other side of the great wall of ideology.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:26 am
Or maybe we saw only with our hearts, and forgot that there was infact, intellect on the other side of the great wall of ideology.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:26 am
Or maybe we saw only with our hearts, and forgot that there was infact, intellect on the other side of the great wall of ideology.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:26 am
Or maybe we saw only with our hearts, and forgot that there was infact, intellect on the other side of the great wall of ideology.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
sad
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
sad
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
sad
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
sad
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
sad
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
sad
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
sad
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
sad
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
I’ve said this before, but the American Left needs to reclaim the the concepts of religion and patriotism.
They were turned into weapons against us this year. Some would use harsher terms, I’m sure. We claimed the intellectual high ground, but couldn’t get at people’s hearts. We need to do both.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
I’ve said this before, but the American Left needs to reclaim the the concepts of religion and patriotism.
They were turned into weapons against us this year. Some would use harsher terms, I’m sure. We claimed the intellectual high ground, but couldn’t get at people’s hearts. We need to do both.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
I’ve said this before, but the American Left needs to reclaim the the concepts of religion and patriotism.
They were turned into weapons against us this year. Some would use harsher terms, I’m sure. We claimed the intellectual high ground, but couldn’t get at people’s hearts. We need to do both.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
I’ve said this before, but the American Left needs to reclaim the the concepts of religion and patriotism.
They were turned into weapons against us this year. Some would use harsher terms, I’m sure. We claimed the intellectual high ground, but couldn’t get at people’s hearts. We need to do both.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
I’ve said this before, but the American Left needs to reclaim the the concepts of religion and patriotism.
They were turned into weapons against us this year. Some would use harsher terms, I’m sure. We claimed the intellectual high ground, but couldn’t get at people’s hearts. We need to do both.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
I’ve said this before, but the American Left needs to reclaim the the concepts of religion and patriotism.
They were turned into weapons against us this year. Some would use harsher terms, I’m sure. We claimed the intellectual high ground, but couldn’t get at people’s hearts. We need to do both.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
I’ve said this before, but the American Left needs to reclaim the the concepts of religion and patriotism.
They were turned into weapons against us this year. Some would use harsher terms, I’m sure. We claimed the intellectual high ground, but couldn’t get at people’s hearts. We need to do both.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
I’ve said this before, but the American Left needs to reclaim the the concepts of religion and patriotism.
They were turned into weapons against us this year. Some would use harsher terms, I’m sure. We claimed the intellectual high ground, but couldn’t get at people’s hearts. We need to do both.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:14 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
this closely mirrors my thoughts.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:14 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
this closely mirrors my thoughts.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:14 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
this closely mirrors my thoughts.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:14 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
this closely mirrors my thoughts.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:14 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
this closely mirrors my thoughts.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:14 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
this closely mirrors my thoughts.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:14 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
this closely mirrors my thoughts.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:14 am
Re: I didn’t want to see the homophobia
this closely mirrors my thoughts.
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:11 am
I didn’t want to see the homophobia
Easy. I was basing my estimates on turnout levels for Republicans vs Democrats vs Independents that closely resembled that of 2000.
Turns out that almost just as many Republicans as Democrats voted this time. Also undecides broke 50/50 for each candidate. Why for both phenomina? Because of “social issues” or in other words – the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
I never ever thought Gay Marriage would be such a GOTV tool. I was wrong. It goes to show what a different world I live in here in Providence.
Tolerance – who wouldathunkit?
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:11 am
I didn’t want to see the homophobia
Easy. I was basing my estimates on turnout levels for Republicans vs Democrats vs Independents that closely resembled that of 2000.
Turns out that almost just as many Republicans as Democrats voted this time. Also undecides broke 50/50 for each candidate. Why for both phenomina? Because of “social issues” or in other words – the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
I never ever thought Gay Marriage would be such a GOTV tool. I was wrong. It goes to show what a different world I live in here in Providence.
Tolerance – who wouldathunkit?
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:11 am
I didn’t want to see the homophobia
Easy. I was basing my estimates on turnout levels for Republicans vs Democrats vs Independents that closely resembled that of 2000.
Turns out that almost just as many Republicans as Democrats voted this time. Also undecides broke 50/50 for each candidate. Why for both phenomina? Because of “social issues” or in other words – the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
I never ever thought Gay Marriage would be such a GOTV tool. I was wrong. It goes to show what a different world I live in here in Providence.
Tolerance – who wouldathunkit?
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:11 am
I didn’t want to see the homophobia
Easy. I was basing my estimates on turnout levels for Republicans vs Democrats vs Independents that closely resembled that of 2000.
Turns out that almost just as many Republicans as Democrats voted this time. Also undecides broke 50/50 for each candidate. Why for both phenomina? Because of “social issues” or in other words – the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
I never ever thought Gay Marriage would be such a GOTV tool. I was wrong. It goes to show what a different world I live in here in Providence.
Tolerance – who wouldathunkit?
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:11 am
I didn’t want to see the homophobia
Easy. I was basing my estimates on turnout levels for Republicans vs Democrats vs Independents that closely resembled that of 2000.
Turns out that almost just as many Republicans as Democrats voted this time. Also undecides broke 50/50 for each candidate. Why for both phenomina? Because of “social issues” or in other words – the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
I never ever thought Gay Marriage would be such a GOTV tool. I was wrong. It goes to show what a different world I live in here in Providence.
Tolerance – who wouldathunkit?
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:11 am
I didn’t want to see the homophobia
Easy. I was basing my estimates on turnout levels for Republicans vs Democrats vs Independents that closely resembled that of 2000.
Turns out that almost just as many Republicans as Democrats voted this time. Also undecides broke 50/50 for each candidate. Why for both phenomina? Because of “social issues” or in other words – the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
I never ever thought Gay Marriage would be such a GOTV tool. I was wrong. It goes to show what a different world I live in here in Providence.
Tolerance – who wouldathunkit?
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:11 am
I didn’t want to see the homophobia
Easy. I was basing my estimates on turnout levels for Republicans vs Democrats vs Independents that closely resembled that of 2000.
Turns out that almost just as many Republicans as Democrats voted this time. Also undecides broke 50/50 for each candidate. Why for both phenomina? Because of “social issues” or in other words – the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
I never ever thought Gay Marriage would be such a GOTV tool. I was wrong. It goes to show what a different world I live in here in Providence.
Tolerance – who wouldathunkit?
November 3rd, 2004 at 11:11 am
I didn’t want to see the homophobia
Easy. I was basing my estimates on turnout levels for Republicans vs Democrats vs Independents that closely resembled that of 2000.
Turns out that almost just as many Republicans as Democrats voted this time. Also undecides broke 50/50 for each candidate. Why for both phenomina? Because of “social issues” or in other words – the homophobic masses turned out to vote for Anti Gay Marriage ammendments.
I never ever thought Gay Marriage would be such a GOTV tool. I was wrong. It goes to show what a different world I live in here in Providence.
Tolerance – who wouldathunkit?